Noam Chomsky - Libertarian Socialism Contradicting terms

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[Liberare Opresso]

Is it not possible that current Voluntaryist's are breaching certain aspects of their own rules making them, and not the ideas of Voluntryism the issue? For eliminating wage labor, make certain resources public such as: water/food/shelter/the maintenance/preservation of ecosystems, as human life is not sustainable without these things there control is an inherently a breach of the non centralization of power aspect of both Anarchism/Voluntaryism, so make these public, or negate true anarchism.

[KevMolloy65]

How do you make a stawman of Ayn Rand, I thought her arguments couldn't get any weaker?

[benandreas369]

Voluntaryism is just delusional. The real term is actually differential advantage... The very notion of this fantasy/ utopian dream of having a consumer and producer agree is hilarious espeically when this system itself is based on market share control, and greed/ self-interest. See the contradiction? Im assuming you do not know own a business. I do, and Ill tell you what. People agree with our pricing all the time, but based on their price, that is the quality they are going to get.

[benandreas369]

HAHAHA... that is funny. Rand believed in being selfishness and worrying about yourself. She was a Social Darwinist, and is opposite of being "democratic".

[Deadwind002]

Capitalism isn't supposed to be subsidized, it's a ridiculous notion.

[Deadwind002]

How is a voluntary action slavery? The minimum wage is 'slave' labor according to you, but you're not mentioning inflation, which is the ultimate theft of all.

[Deadwind002]

No he's not, the state wages war paid for through inflation and taxes, domestically and overseas, corporations compete for the tax dollars that funds the armies but that is because of the state in the first place. Limited state, limited corporate 'tyranny'.

[Deadwind002]

Ayn Rand isn't a libertarian and she isn't an anarcho-capitalist, she believed in the democratic system. You're just repeating a stupid straw man argument from bloodthirsty liberals.

[Deadwind002]

If government wasn't big, there would be no power to lobby. Corporations lobby government, not the other way around. The beast is the state.

Which leads leftists to think that enlarging government to fight corporations is the answer - all that results in is bigger government and bigger corporations.

Starbucks didn't starve and bomb hundreds of thousands of people in the ME, that was the state.

[Glenn Hardy]

Private tyranny has never needed military force to maintain its power, since its subjects voluntarily surrender their freedom in the form of wage slavery and obligation to a lifetime of mortgage payments and a multitude of other debt repayment. In the USA, the country's owners have, at least up to this point, generally been smart enough (ie. been willing to temper their greed enough) to allow people pressure escape valves in order to keep them in line. However, this is rapidly changing.