Creation / Evolution debate on Michael Coren Show

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Wait past the intro - This was the Creation/Evolution debate episode on the Michael Coren show, aired in Canada by CTS (shown here with permission). The debaters were Jason Wiles and Laurence Tisdall.
Laruence is the president of the Creation Science Association of Quebec (http://creationnisme.com)
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[MrHoolits]

@lunchbox420wb, The only other person silly enough to say mankind came from rocks is Kent Hovind and he is currently a convicted felon, in prison where he will be incarcerated for 10 years which is a light sentence considering all the charges.

The only thing that can come rocks is gravel and later sand.

You can go ahead and believe mankind descended from the incest of Adam & Eve's children and later the incest of Noah's children but you so due to scripture and not science. 

[lunchbox420wb]

@ExtantFrodo2 So this proves we came from a rock billions of years ago?

[DIGITALSCREAMS]

Creation scientist....mmm ok. Can you provide any evidence to support the 6 day theory without referring to the Bible? No? WELL SHUT THE FUCK UP THEN.

[ExtantFrodo2]

@guitarbyous I did address that fact.

I said, "the plasmid sequences were the sequences closest to something that could begin to deal with nylon, so no it's not at all suspicious."

[ExtantFrodo2]

@guitarbyous Isn't it fast enough for you? What isn't developing to YOUR desire? Haven't you noticed that across the board the more rapid the generation the larger the number of species?

[guitarbyous]

@ExtantFrodo2

"The time scale is not at all unusual for random mutation."

Well, therefore random mutation and evolution should be at a faster rate shouldnt it? And it most certainly should be more usual and more mutations should also be beneficial shouldnt it? Neither did you address the fact that these only appear on plasmids.

[ExtantFrodo2]

@guitarbyous the plasmid sequences were the sequences closest to something that could begin to deal with nylon, so no it's not at all suspicious.

[ExtantFrodo2]

@guitarbyous In actual fact, it was 9 days before colonies could grow at all on a simple nylon dimer, and three months before fast growing strains that could handle linear and cyclic dimers were isolated. This is typical of random mutation, a simple mutation allows the bacterial to just cope with the xenobiotic, allowing it a small selective advantage, and subsequent mutations improve on the initial weak activity. The time scale is not at all unusual for random mutation.

[ExtantFrodo2]

@guitarbyousNot true, as before, the nylB group comes from a frameshift of an internally repetitious gene (so not surprisingly it is novel). NylA and NylC have not had homologous genes identified as of 2000, but then again a lot of bacterial sequencing has been done since, and as Don Batten states in a footnote, no Flavobacterium genome has yet been sequenced. Gene duplication is a major sources of new genes, but frame shifts, recombination and so on are all other sources of genes.