Creation / Evolution debate on Michael Coren Show

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Wait past the intro - This was the Creation/Evolution debate episode on the Michael Coren show, aired in Canada by CTS (shown here with permission). The debaters were Jason Wiles and Laurence Tisdall.
Laruence is the president of the Creation Science Association of Quebec (http://creationnisme.com)
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[John Protheroe]

You are right in your QM arguments, especially the one just mentioned. I need to give more thought to your arguments concerning bacteria populations. I'll get back to you tomorrow.

[Gen V]

None of this actually addresses my argument, so are you conceding that you were wrong and i was right? I mean, you ignore the fact that another particle interacting with a particle fullfills the role of an observer and therefore in a system with two or more particles, it is measured and its position is fixed because an observer exists to measure it. So either you dont understand quantum mechanics, or youre admitting that youve lost. Which is it?

[John Protheroe]

As an example from extinct life forms, why would a designer build TRex with tiny little arms?

Doesn't it make much more sense to accept that a creature with such an obvious set of survival tools has little need for arms, and natural selection lost interest in TRex's arms.

There are thousands of examples of vestigial phenomena in both extinct and extant life forms. It would be the equivalent of an engineer building a car with a faulty fridge freezer placed on the roof!

[John Protheroe]

The other problem with intelligent design is that the design of life shows no sign of intelligence, but shows every sign of evolution from earlier form. The Internet is full of stuff on this.

So, massive amounts of evidence for slow change over vast amounts of time and little sign of intelligent design in extant life forms.

[John Protheroe]

The problem with the idea of intelligent design is that it requires an intelligent designer. If, as you propose, all intelligently designed phenomena require a designer, then who designed the designer?

It's just a circular argument.

If, on the other hand you accept that some apparently designed systems (such as a deity) do not require a designer, then save yourself a step and accept evolution.

[Vincent Deschenes]

Where did instinct come from? that's the toughest one to answer. Like the instinct to

reproduce

ability to survive

Instinct to eat and drink

To perform tasks

A bacteria lacking a brain and eyes evolved into this??????????????????

I'm more on the intelligent design side.

[gregrutz]

The Grand Canyon has 44 distinct layers of different kinds of rocks laid down at different time over millions of years. An unconformity is a gap in the rock record caused by erosion, missing layers. This IDiot YEC needs to read a geology book.

[gregrutz]

Correct, there is no evidence for a global flood.

[gregrutz]

Survey says: bible packers in the south are stupid.