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Uploaded by on Aug 13, 2011

Trevor begins instructing his brother in Spanish rapier fencing.

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  • Believe me, our son is tougher than nails, and is no mean swordstoddler himself. :-D

  • He already does. XD

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  • what does the boy do between this two crazy men?

  • maybe its the new father in me, but i hear a voice in the back of my head screaming that there is a little kid between two pointed blades being pointed downward as child plays triginometric hopscotch without a care in the world...

  • @PuckCurtis, I have been to your site alot. It is excellent and I recommend it to fellow rapier fences alot. Pacheco and Thibault have some real differences and what you see here is really the conceptual basics. Real boring stuff actually. It gets livelier a bit down the road so to speak. Then, you really see the fighting element of it.

    I feel Pacheco is really more user friendly from the get go. Thibault gets super detailed and kinda slows down in the beginning.

  • @fenririoupblanc, good eye! Thibault starts off with the quillions up and down. The quillions horizontal is there to collect the blade and establish dominance over the blade. Basically, we were skipping the step to cover the whole "instances" thing that we had been discussing all day.

    Technically, Thibault is Flemish. The style is based on Spanish fencing and so we tend to refer to it by that. Thibault threw some of his own ideas in there, but thebottom basic idea was still the same.

  • @dias93g, that first step(the second instance) sets up a better angle than the original position (the first instance), however it is not as advantageous as the next step (third instance). This is basically a starting point for all of Thibaut's system. He has attacks from all instances. The sequence here just shows how he closes distance while getting a better angle. I think this would be a lot easier to see this if the blades showed up better and it was an overhead view.

  • Sorry for not responding sooner. I am the guy in the video. This is my wife's account and she posted the video. To explain what is going on here, my brother (the other fencer) had a few.questions about Thibault overall. Both of us had been booting for a good while before this so much of what is being talked about actually addresses the routing and some.general ideas from Thibault.

    That little guy is my son and, yeah, he's already pretty scary.

  • Actually, it's neither French or Spanish. It's Dutch. Thibault was from Amsterdam and studied under a Dutch fencing master prior to travelling to Spain and studying there. He then made his own hybrid system.... possibly with some influence bu Ludolph Van Cuelen at the University of Leiden and a common circle of friends and aquiantences. It was written in the French lanquage, from which we translated it into English.

  • My name is Puck Curtis and someone pointed me to your video. You might take a look at the Destreza Translation and Research Project Wiki (you can google it). I have tried to provide enough material there for people to begin training the Pachequistan Destreza.

  • If you're trying to do thibault, from what I can see at 480p, you're holding your rapier wrong.

    And technically it's French, not Spanish, though the principles are derived from Caranza's destreza, the style is totally different to, say, Pacheco Narvaez

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