The #1 MISUNDERSTOOD NT VERSE ON TITHING
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you are truly in bonadage! i feel for you sister. I believe in free will giving and am have total freedom.
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Another one who failed to study the Book of Malachi in it's proper context!
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Start with Malachi 3:7 - God is talking about His ordinances regarding tithes and offerings. Those ordinances are in Numbers 18, which, by the way, no one is following today. Then see Hebrews 7:5,12,18. Verse 18 tells us that the command, Numbers 18 (all laws regarding the Levitical priesthood) have been DISANNULLED. It is perfectly clear that tithing was disannulled.
You can be led by the law, OR you can be Spirit led. I am Spirit led.
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According to the International Bible Encyclopedia, the days of mere bartering ended before the days of Abraham.
The tithing law itself proves they had both money and a marketing system for buying and selling their crops and animals (Deuteronomy 14:24-26).
The Old Testament also had a set standard both prior to the law and during the law. Genesis:23:16.
A MONEY OFFERING TO BE USED FOR THE SERVICE OF THE TABERNACLE - Exodus 30:14-16,
To say they didn't use money is false.
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@PinCodes1 the church demands?? Really Acts 20:34
Where does God demand in the NT that tithes are now money and were to be given every paycheck on the gross income??
OT scripture will not work for this example. The veil was rent at Calvary and we are free from the weight of the laws demands. We are lead by the Spirit as individuals to grow and walk with him. If rules get implemented again then we are placing ourselves under the law. This brings a curse. Gal 3:10
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@PinCodes1 The temple tax is not a OT Holy tithe.
A Holy Tithe is food grown only in Israel.
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@PinCodes1 Honor is the correct translation.
The Greek word for "honor," as used in verse 17 and in the rest of the New Testament, does NOT mean "salary" or "wage." As just mentioned, the noun in 5:17 is timees (Strong’s 5092). It occurs 38 times in the KJV New Testament: 28 times as "honor," 8 times as "price," once as "sum," and once as "precious," but NEVER as "wage." When used as "price," it does not mean "wage" or "salary," but "value.
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@PinCodes1 Stipends: usually lower than what would be expected as a permanent salary for similar work.
But the house, car(s), clothing and food is paid for out of church funds.
Paul writes:
2Th 3:7 For you yourselves know how you ought to follow our example, because we did not act in an undisciplined manner among you,
2Th 3:8 nor did we eat anyone's bread without paying for it, but with labor and hardship we kept working night and day so that we would not be a burden to any of you;
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@PinCodes1 Fulfill definition:
- achieve something: to do what is necessary to bring about or achieve something expected, desired, or promised
Jesus fulfilled the whole law. This is why we do not have the blood sacrifices, priests do not have to wear all the robes and the OT temple articles are not needed any more.
Jesus lives in mens heart in the New Covenant. We as individuals are the royal priesthood. I alone stand before God and Jesus is the mediator.
Hi there prwilli75, thanks for the awesome points, seriously. I find that dealing deductively alone on a Scriptural topic never seems to breed faith, without which it is impossible to please God (Heb 6:11). So while I am going to answer each of your points with Scripture (in several posts below), it will still be my interpretation of it, right? So before I get heady, let me first tell you unscriptedly what my heart says.
PinCodes1 1 year ago
@PinCodes1 What about the OT Law was lead by the heart?? It was a law and it remains one to this day.
The poor struggle to meet it and the rich miss out on blessings that God wants to give them because they meet their obligation by paying 10%. They then are not being lead by faith they are being lead by a law.
prwilli75 1 year ago
@prwilli75 I said we wouldn't solve this, so I'll only answer this final question: Scripture says tithing is only a start. Malachi mentions tithes AND offerings, which are whatever you want to give above the 10. It was a heart matter in the OT & still today, which I don't think you are grasping. When I was poor there was no struggle to tithe because 10% of 0 is 0! I know Christians who give only the 10 but know so many more who say if a waiter gets 15% then why should God only get 10? Take care!
PinCodes1 1 year ago
1) "I don't have to tithe, I get to." 2) "I'm gonna tithe not because its logical but with faith according to what God told his kids in Mal 3." 3) "So what does God deserve? My 10%, you gotta be kidding me."
"TITHING IS LEVITICAL LAW. JESUS FULFILLED THE LAW AT CALVARY."
All pro-tithers hang their hat on the Malachi 3 passage. Malachi was a minor PROPHET and he taught on the LAW of tithing, and Jesus said "Do not think that I have come to abolish the LAW or the PROPHETS"...
PinCodes1 1 year ago