ELCA decisions explained

Confused about Minneapolis? This will explain it all to you in plain language.

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• ELCA
• Lutheran
• homosexuality
• statement
• gay
• churchwide
• assembly

[rjky1986]

The contents of this video are mostly true, and full of priceless humour. Great video,

schmeckenbeckons! On another note, why is is that Gay ordinations are the issue causing everyone to get up in arms? Because isn't sin in any form still sin? What if they gamble compulsively or get wasted a lot? Or if they openly insult people on a regular basis? Should all those people never be pastors either? My point is if sin is sin, what's so radically different about being gay? (I'm straight by the way).

[schmeckenbeckons]

RKJY: Your astute comments are on target. Clergy are guilty of many sins.  Divorce, which is explicitly prohibited in the New Testament, is allowed among the clergy. Bigotry, parochialism, abuse of Word and Sacrament, heresy, and sexism are runaway sins among clergy-- not just ELCA. The ELCA has failed to define what is ethically acceptable for lay people (divorce, homosexuality, premarital sex, etc.,) and in what ways clergy can be held to a higher standard, according to our theology..

[djacobso1]

As the director of the ELCAs Book of Faith Initiative I totally agree that it is all about both the verbs and the Jello. As one who, with the whole church, is called, renewed, enlivened, empowered, and sent, I hope and trust and long and pray and invite you to consider that my Midwest, albeit decidedly not Scandinavian, belly laugh is sufficient unto the day.

[schmeckenbeckons]

Thank you for your belly laugh. And for your good work on behalf of us all. If there ever is a Book of Faith golf umbrella, I will proudly carry one.

[lemmieemmie]

LOL!!!! -- proof that even this can be parodied with good humor -- but oh how good it is to be Missouri Synod Lutheran!

[NixonisLord]

@CoryTheRaven any suggestions on how else to have an argument? Or should we just emote? And people are more than welcome to make fun right back-to simply sniffle and bawl and pout is a sign that you are a total p*ssy. Religion is ridiculous-and it's getting smaller all the time. It's funny that you're constantly praising the Scandinavian countries-which have some of the lowest levels of religious practice on earth. Why not follow their example and give this nonsense a miss?

[CoryTheRaven]

@NixonisLord That's just it: you're so caught up in the "logic and examples" of your argument and not in the braindead stupidity and classlessness of making fun of people who are different from yourself. Usually you can't talk someone out of being a douchebag, y'know?

[NixonisLord]

@CoryTheRaven try worrying about whether or not something is accurate. Leave the rhetorical questions and the "sighs" to the drama queens, many of whom clearly seek ordination in the ELCA. Religion is unreal enough without refusing to address things that are asked with logic and examples provided.

[NixonisLord]

"repugnant" is in the eyes of the beholder. I don't appreciate pre-emptive censorship any more than censorship of any other kind. I don't like prior restraint. Socially and psychologically could many anything and everything. If you don't like a joke, don't laugh at it. Don't like a book? Don't read it. A TV show or movie or song irritates or offends you? Don't watch or listen and don't buy.

[CoryTheRaven]

@NixonisLord *sigh* I'm not even entirely sure I have the energy to explain to you how a group of people satirizing themselves is socially and psychologically different from other people insulting and slandering a group they're not a part of. Are you even cognizant of how much of a racist and a bigot your first sentence makes you sound? Do you actually need it explained to you why its repugnant for non-Jews and non-blacks, and non-whites, to make fun of those people, or are you just trolling?

[NixonisLord]

@CoryTheRaven Why can't non-Jews and non-Blacks make fun of them? People make fun of White people who aren't White. Is there some sort of committee that gets to make these decisions? Or are you just making it up to suit your politics or worldview? As an atheist, I would be ashamed to feel so pitifully self-conscious and weak to think that nobody but other atheists could make fun of me. Naturally, I think it's much tougher to make fun of atheists than believers but that's just me.

[CoryTheRaven]

@NixonisLord It's kinda' like how if you're black or Jewish you're allowed to make jokes about blacks or Jews. We're able to make fun of ourselves because A) we have senses of humour, and B) they're our issues to deal with. If you're not religious and you make mean-spirited jokes about religion (though usually people skip making intentional jokes and just go straight for being mean-spirited), then you're just being a jerk.

[NixonisLord]

Religion parodies itself once again. Why anyone wants anything to do with religion, (and I don't care if you marry a cabbage) is beyond me.

[NixonisLord]

Wow-glad you're not using stereotypes about the middle classes who are too unenlightened to appreciate your "Prophetic ministries"! Really subtle! Your religion is boring; face it, both the ELCA and the Missouri Synod are shrinking away.  Even the ELCA's head bishop says that the ELCA will be gone by 2060 if membership trends continue patterns from the past 35 years. You're all going the way of the Shakers and, as an atheist, I am glad. Waste of money, time and effort on nonsense.