KRISHNAMURTI : The Last Talks - Talk 3. (Part 1 of 7).

the freedom that comes from the knowing and understanding what is and was brings about a great understanding in who i am, therefore the me is no more, and i can be, that very being is transformaton which is bringing out the inner to the surface. a light in the world.

I dont know how to answer to this peremptory qualification To pass an efficiency judgement on somebody is not in my habits.
I think we cant meet ourselves when we talk about teachers, who are delivering informations, but only : out of the schools, in the playground of all schools, beyond all knowledge forms.
Best,

Johnny, it is not about judgement but about perception of what it is. I'm not in the "K's backyard"... I'm seeing the facts on my own. It is very easy to found some help if we are not seeking for something trascendental, sacred... no doubt your neighbours found "real help" through Tolle, I suppose they are better now... but I'd be very amazed if they were enlightened reading his books, because what Tolle do is to deviate your mind frome religion to therapy. And that's all. Best

Dear Galaxio0,

Perception of what it is : Today, many teachers are using the expression :« what it is », but some of them dont designate in fact « what it is » but « what it is behind what it really is. You can call this fact : therapy , because it can offers an appeasement like a tranquillizer , but its often a confusion laying on a terror to be, disguised in spirituality.
Meditation & therapy, hand in hand, is it possible ? .Why not ?
(Excuse my bad english ).
Best

jaja!! Johnny, yo te iba a pedir disculpas por mi bad english... creo que hemos establecido un diálogo interesante... te gustaría seguir en español??? Saludos

I can't understand. My nature born language in french,
and you can call me Phil.

Phil, my name is Galaxio. Meditation is opposite to therapy. In therapy there is a goal: something (generally an ego) to be healed that becomes the center of all the efforts. In meditation, that "something" must be discarded entirely, so there is no center, no goal, and no effort. As you can see, there is no place for both in the same mind. "The observer is the observed" (K) is the key of all this. There is observation, but not observer... consider the implicancies of this. Regards

Your description is beautiful... problem is, there is a man saying that the ego is a ghost (K), and there is another who says the same thing, but acts FROM his ego, and reinforce the ego in his "disciples" (whichever name have their readers). "Mastering the Power of Now" is a sentence more alike a businessman that an enlightened one. Please look at this simple, so plain fact. Regards

I have read « Mastering the power of now » and I didnt received it like a sentence. I know a few persons in my neighbourhood who had found a real help with the explanations of the mental mecanisms (the « body of suffering » in E.T.s own words.). « Businessman » Woh ?!!
I think we cant meet ourselves when we talk about teachers, who are delivering informations, but only : out of the schools, in the playground of all schools, beyond all knowledge forms.
Best,

Please Johnny... read *carefully* Tolle... how can a man who was "enlightened" (as himself declares) to profit from that "enlightenment"? How can use words like "power", "achievement"? Read his actions... his pyramidal structure of instructors, his organization... more than that: look at his face, eyes, mouth... if you can feel the inner magnificent beauty of a mountain, then you can feel the inner mysery of this man, indeed. If you can't... you and me never will understand each other. Regards.