KRISHNAMURTI : The Last Talks - Talk 3. (Part 1 of 7).

This is Talk 3: Part 1 (4th January 1986, Madras India), it is in seven parts.
The Third of 3 Final Talks given by Jiddu Krishnamurti, his last and most enigmatic talks.

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[shickboy]

this is quite simple to understand if you take the time to go into it for yourself. we are conditioned from the day we are born. within that conditioning are our beliefs, our conclusions, our traumas, our memories both positive and negative. everything that creates a division between one person and another is in conditioning. if you can see through that conditioning then all psychological differences disappear and we all suddenly become one.

[seastarwatcher]

... well explained & simply put.

People must see this important fact of "conditioning" in our existence.

Thanks!

[yogeshwaryogeshwaryo]

Eckhart Tolle Points to the same thing, in his power of now. But he seems to be particular about giving methods to the people, where JK does not even care about it. He just leaves the audience w/o giving any method, any comfort. At times I have found myself in a state of depression, tremendous negativity, but I can only say, I don't know how, but some day it flowers. What flowers, is neither negative nor positive, or there is no "me" to judge it. :)

[xk23]

"We are going to talk about......I forgot"....no matter how old he got....there was this innate innocence in his body language. A constant proof that he lived what he talked about.

[saintjoe14]

@shickboy So we see that through thought, one can never reach beyond what seems simply because all thought is born out of our past. At best we will simply conclude in order to find some appeasement and come away with another belief of some sort. You point to a very interesting fact that in nature thought doesn't exist!! But am I misinterpreting you in that nature is silent? Is not the sizzling crackle of lightning or a sudden smack of thunder also nature? Not just silence? Explain please?

[shickboy]

@saintjoe14 thought is conditioning, is that why thought can't go beyond conditioning, because thought can't go beyond itself? i see one good way of understanding thought in relation to nature: in nature it doesn't exist, and never did until humanity came along. the silence of nature, the universe, without time, where no divisions exist psychologically is where the divisions of thought can be easiest understood. the past exists in thought, and the present, which is actual life, exists in silence

[saintjoe14]

@shickboy 

[saintjoe14]

@shickboy __Is it at all possible, for one to transcend any and all conditioning when it is the self seeking? If it is our best thinking preoccupied with seeking a result, [ transcending conditioning], we fail to see beyond what seems. We become merely the core self trapped in thought. And we will rest once again on what is simply psychological security. That which is safe. And henceforth a slave to our own conditioning. The self creating a favorable result. So is it at all possible?

[saintjoe14]

@shickboy____Is it at all possible for one to transcend conditioning if it is the self seeking? The core of the whole self who we have become is certainly not capable of this because any thought will be out of reaction to our conditioning, and becomes reactionary, Can you explain to me please, if it is possible, first of all for one to transcend that which is conditioning? Apart from the psychological securities of the core self..Any and all thought can never go beyond our conditioning

[alasmoodytor]

I love the hand movement when he says"..if you've made a mess of your life,change it..."

[pavqx]

it would be nice if someone is able to make subtitle ... at least in english, at best in other language !!!

please, humble request for great benefit

[longfootbuddy]

i see a reaccuring thing he keeps saying, and i agree completely when he says" question things yourself, think about things yourself, dont look to someone to tell you the answer, contemplate it yourself" ...this is a lesson that most people will never understand

[hmala]

i luv the bird singing and chattering. i luv how funny and sharp he is at 91. incredible. this is one of my fav videos. many thx for posting these seastarwatcher.