Bouncing Philosophical Checks.

A response to Noah's "Veritas48 Challenge" on the Argument from Facts of Normativity.

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• God
• Atheism
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• Christinaity
• TheoreticalBullshit
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[sdrawkcabgnipytmi]

@donnajfrnb

It's not about not wanting to believe, it's that there is no evidence for the existence of a God.

[BigLundi]

@derfos666 He actually has a half hour video about how he defines morality, how it can be objectively measured, and how it works completely better than a christian idea of what is wrong, it's called "Treatise on Morality"

[DaluZwasUnavailable]

That was good spanish man! I would like to see you trying portuguese.

[eggertstwart]

@donnajfrnb I'm sure it would seem like that to a believer, but of course, everyone with different religious beliefs thinks similar things about you.

[imafoolhahaha]

Did you do this video after having a few drinks? lol..

[vidfreak56]

This is the thing Ive always thought. Its not that I have a problem believing in a god or gods, but rather I have a problem swallowing what christians call "his will". As it stands I cant believe in this for the same reason that a christian cant believe in anything else. Its because you dont want to be wrong or else you might face gods wrath.

[derfos666]

Out of curiosity, what non-normative definition would you give to the word "moral"?

I usually define being moral as "doing what ought to be done (given a particular situation)." If so, the question "why ought I be moral" IS a meaningless question.

Rationality may have a purely descriptive definition, but I'm not sure about morality here. Same goes for "goodness" "better" and other terms you use in your refutation.

[Ekenedil]

Haha Veritas is a moron.

[qtzlctl2012]

This is really good. I've been trying to word it better, but I've argued similarly by saying "to say you cannot derive an ought from an is is false in both worldviews. In the religious worldview you are deriving all your oughts(morals) from the IS of god's existence."

[Artifactorfiction]

@SeaPrince10 You forgot the conditional, in this case something like "....If fun is a state of mind that I wish to attain" should/ought suffice

[lfzadra]

@donnajfrnb "it's rebellion against authority using your own reasons" The same can be said for your position. Your superstition is nothing more than an act of rebellion against reality. God must be true, because if it´s not, you are not special and will not live forever. And because you don´t want to face the reality that there´s no rational reason to believe in a god, you just rape your own brain with belief in myths, thinking that, if you have faith enough, it will became true.