Faith Alone VS. Faith & Works

2 minute apologetics by John Martignoni, president of the Bible Christian Society. www.biblechristiansociety.com

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[sweet161402]

Catholics believe The Nicene creed. Peace be with you.

[talusan909]

Catholics do believe in Faith and Works not Faith Alone (Protestant) or Works alone. Please correct your teachings.

[ray7685]

@drdst17 Do you not think that Acts 15 settles the issue of faith and works? And what of the word 'salvation' being defined by its context? Just like to know if you have considered these two situations when resolving the faith and works dilemma.

[ray7685]

@drdst17 Do you not think that Acts 15 settles the issue of faith and works? And what of the word 'salvation' being defined by its context? Just like to know if you have considered these two situations when resolving the faith and works dilemma.

[drdst17]

@ray7685 Sorry about the misunderstanding, then. Positioning in Christ is permanent only if you continue to accept Him for the rest of your existence. Free Will exists, and we can accept or deny our Lord at any point in our lives. I am a living example of this: I lived as a faithful Christian until I was in my late teens, then turned away from God into Atheism for the next 13 or so years. Only about 3 years ago did I truly accept Christ into my life, and I don't see how I could give him up.

[ray7685]

@drdst17 I am not a Calvinist. I think you have me confused with someone else. I agree with what you are saying. What I am saying, however, is that our position in Christ (2nd Adam) is permanent once it occurs. Do you agree with this?

[drdst17]

@ray7685 No, we are not under Christ as the 2nd Adam unless we CHOOSE to orient our lives to Him - this is the reason that He came down from Heaven in the first place! Every single one of us is born under the stain of Original Sin - the legacy of our first parents.

Christ came to us in order to reconcile us to God - but only if we CHOOSE this - for God gave us the Free Will to either accept Him or reject Him. How we respond to this will determine our salvation.

TULIP Calvinism is pure heresy

[ray7685]

@drdst17 We were all born under the 1st Adam, but those who've believed in Christ are now under the 2nd Adam (Christ) positionally. We can't go back and forth between the 1st and 2nd Adam at will -- these are spiritual positions! We didn't get salvation by being good, so we can't lose it by being bad. Salvation, not probation, is what is given to us.

[ray7685]

@drdst17 Acts 15 was the perfect opportunity to make clear the issue of faith and works in terms of salvation. And Peter surely did! These passages are key in ending this issue, but I seldom hear it read when it comes to this issue. Acts15 is the reason why James is not talking about soul salvation. James speaks of a faith that doesn't arise to its intended purpose. That's why it is dead [at the moment]. All of us are guilty of this at one time or another.

[ray7685]

@drdst17 You don't find it interesting that Paul doesn't elaborate on what you are saying, and neither does James? Have you done a study on the different meanings of the word 'salvation'? How about the different meanings of the word 'church'? The meaning of these words are determmined by their context. there are different uses of the word salvation in Scripture, and not all refer to soul salvation. So it would be an error to suppose that 'salvation' always refers to the soul.