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Glad to see that the overarching themes that should unite all Christians are more important to you boys than petty sqabbling over who's "right" on minor philosophical issues. This is exactly why I prefer to lean toward being nondenominational.
to Rhuanjl- i found those bible verses when i was trying to find out how the early christian church was handling various issues. once i decided that there were lines of ordinations of clergy stretching back to the apostles, i realized that no protestant sect or baptist sect or non-denominational congregationalist sect could meet my standards. thus i tried to find a church existing today that existed before the protestant reformation.
to Rhuanjl-- the verses don't mention the pope or papacy, and yet they do mention apostolic succession. apostolic succession is essential, regardless of whether the papacy is essential. acts 14:22 is one of the verses dealing with apos- successn. also acts 15 shows an organized church, not an unorganized church that one can join by simply adopting the right beliefs. --- i see that you don't like the catholic view of the lord's supper. christ encouraged his people to consume his flesh and blood.
Look at the historical meaning of the word, not the way it's been abused in the last centuary. Whether or not the church has a guitar is quite irrelevant.
I am familiar with the historical meaning of the word. However, language also changes over time. Perhaps this is abuse, perhaps not. Regardless, I do not think it is wrong to use the term sociologically in this case.
If you like, I will amend my comment to say "the protestants modern sociologists of religion classify as evangelical."
Whilst hardly being a reliable source even wikipedia doesn't say that the term evangelical has anything to do with the style of music used in church meetings.
An evangelical is one who takes the Bible at it's word as a sufficient, authorititive and clear standard for their faith.
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--- i see that you don't like the catholic view of the lord's supper. christ encouraged his people to consume his flesh and blood.
If you like, I will amend my comment to say "the protestants modern sociologists of religion classify as evangelical."
An evangelical is one who takes the Bible at it's word as a sufficient, authorititive and clear standard for their faith.