IdrA vs Day9 - SOTG (State of the game)

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• idra
• day9
• starcraft
• zerg
• protoss
• terran
• underpowered
• state
• of
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• game
• sotg
• starcraft2

[brigbjones]

@SketchyAussie i don't agree with Idra at all the type of person he is means that he wants "THE PEN-ULTIMATE BUILD" something that zerg can do that is unbreakable defensively and allows him to macro without the fear of losing outright to any one specific strategy but the problem is that zerg isn't that race. zerg is built to be reactionary and flow rather than forcing the game. not to mention that this video was posted almost a year ago and isn't relevant in today's game.

[larflores1]

its episode37 and can be found on liquipedia

[Blix43]

What the fuck, that is the worst possible time to cut that off.

[Blix43]

Idra is right if Zerg can't scout. But they can.

[TheOwun]

Protoss - Terran and Zerg

[jamrs0331]

is that idra... smiling?

[SomeNoobWithCE]

As much as I hate Idra for his manners in regards to losing games or just players in general sometimes, he has a point. Zerg doesn't have a reliable way to scout at all short of saccing an overlord and praying that it makes it far enough in to see what's going on. Yes, people can say Zerg is a reactionary race but it's hard to be a reactionary race when you have zero knowledge of what's going on. As a zerg you are forced to direct the flow of battle instead of react, that's what he is saying.

[TheDragon359]

@brigbjones It's actually still relevant because it still holds true...Zerg lacks a useful cost-effective scout early game without lair tech and overlord speed/overseers which can still be denied

[Mun885]

@ohAlanho Actually ravens are used more often than carriers. Mothership is sometimes seen in like PvZ. BC - no idea, not following terran gameplay. But it doesn't change fact that these units are shit. Like in BW science vessels were used pretty often, despite having scans-only building at each expansion. Now terran is only using scans.

[philateliceun]

@tjv323 But obs require robo wich narrows your build order down, Lair almost doesn't mess with your build order and you can get it as quick as robo.

[tjv323]

@philateliceun because terran can scan, protoss can get quick invisible observers. Zerg has nothing to be able to do that with.

[philateliceun]

@chairmobile I agree, I think what day9 also tried to say is that just because there is no solution now doesn;t mean there is no solution at all. SC2 is still a young game.