displacement

ralph nader stopped by late last night with a few of his rowdy buddies. i showed him zzz33333's video. naturally he had something to say.

one of the gang said we don't need to displace the walmarts, we need to blow them up

he had a very good point. i see displacement as something the people who "don't know what to do" can do until they know what to do. i'd prefer we take giant steps instead of baby steps, but i'll be happy to see peeps taking baby steps. right now all i see is crowded parking lots at these merchants of death.

excellent talk by mr. nader, 'the road to corporate fascism,' in six parts:

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=f5siEL9hgFo

(good ol' ralph—he won't stop fighting till he hits the grave, and something tells me after that he'll keep on working from the other side.)

this is a response to zzz33333's
eloquent "What should 'We' DO?":

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=7NWZUx87JAI

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[ReliableInsider]

It's true. Ironically, by running against the Democrats, with help from Fox News and various conservative political consultants, Ralph whats-his-name put George W. Bush in office.

This is the danger of a third party in a two-party system. If it does well but doesn't win the election, it may be handing the victory to its political opponents.

[pennilesscripple]

ha! i'm psychic.

i saw that you had left a comment on this video, then i went to get a drink of water, and i thought that this would be your comment.

i posted it because of what he said, not because of any political affiliation. still it could be easily argued he'd be a better choice than what we have now, as would pee-wee herman. and he reminds people that of the flaws in our electoral process by holding it accountable. *and* the neocons put gwb in office through trickery and theft.

[FunToRelate]

25 years ago, when I was young and idealistic, Ralph Nadar was like a god. I worshipped his brand of common sense and practicality. After siphoning off 3 million votes that probably would have gone towards the left in a presidential election, I don't know who he is any more.

[pennilesscripple]

aw sorry to pick at that scab, ftr :(

yeah i was out of the country when that all came down but i know he lost a lot of good will with that fiasco

[ReliableInsider]

After I got Ralph what's his name out of my head . . .

So you're saying that just because Monsanto is a merchant of death, they shouldn't be in charge of everything? Hmmm.

[pennilesscripple]

okay so you have to mine the minerals to make the technology. are people going to volunteer to do that? or are you going to coerce them, as is now the way? if so that's not sustainable either for human beings or for resources. have you seen the levels of toxicity discarded electronics add to the environment?

[pennilesscripple]

it's a phrase in common use, so googling it might give you a better definition (i'm a bit weary right now), but it means experiences where there are one or more interfaces between you and the real experience. e.g. watching a nature documentary is a mediated experience of walking in a forest.

[mistaspot1]

what do you exactly mean by 'mediated experiences'?

i think technology can co-exist with nature quite peaceably and sustainably. i don't think it's in the realm of fantasy to say that computers would not separate us from our true nature. they enhance our true nature in some ways.

[pennilesscripple]

i dunno when i'm not around a computer i don't miss it

i might miss people whom i connect to, or yearn for creative enpdeavor, but that's not the computer--that's friends and play....

who were you before there was a computer in your life?

were you less fulfiled?

[PositivelyPrimitive]

That was one of my concerns about losing materials I currently use as an artist. In fact, most of my work is done on computer now! But even, just pigments, what would I use? I panicked! lol Okay not really, but what you say is true, to express oneself can be done with very simple tools and materials. I'd still miss the computer though.