the celts - king arthur

this is not made by me
so don't complain about the second song
it's from the movie : king arthur

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[vivaloriflamme]

@colincurwood Good point. And the more recent "invasion" or immigration from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE, several African nations, India,etc..... Future generations In UK will say"I'm 1/16th Celt" the way some Americans say "I'm 1/16th Cherokee".

This is one of the most interesting comment threads ever.

[LeeHoxton1]

@DefeatedElitist For me it's just a very easy look at the difference between the R1b distribution of three nations. Got any e-mail and I'll send them. I'm happy to as I doing this and watching Man United get well beaten. Happy Days!

[DefeatedElitist]

@LeeHoxton1 Can't say I have, but would love to research further. I only started dabbling in it, myself, a few months ago. Fascinating subject to learn about. Thank you for the recommendations.

[LeeHoxton1]

@DefeatedElitist Basically studied Anglo-Saxon history 15 years ago, then got pissed for years, then read Sykes and Oppenheimer's books of '06, reading them just last year. Then believing that this must be the case, then investigating other geneticists publications, then seeing Sykes/Opp mentioned on Youtube. This is got my goat because people should have done their research.

The Myres R1b distribution with piecharts of England/France/Ere are good. Seen this?

[DefeatedElitist]

@LeeHoxton1 I have done some research, and was basing my comments off the information I had found. However, you clearly know more on the subject than I. Interesting to get another perspective.

[LeeHoxton1]

@DefeatedElitist Well I'm advocating that the connection between the Eng paternal line & Danish peninsula could be a result of a large Anglo-Saxon & later Danish settlement. Also mixed with Saxon mercenaries in the service of Rome and some from the Belgae.

Don't think that the connection is a result of a an earlier migration.

The U106 marker correlates with the movement of the Germanics & if this is a marker it will include an older L21 marker

[DefeatedElitist]

@LeeHoxton1 I wasn't necessarily quoting Oppenheimer's views, and I know he has been discredited by others. However, I was mainly arguing the fact that the English are primarily of Anglo Saxon heritage. That theory has been widely discredited by most historians/anthropologists.

[gradyloy1]

@LeeHoxton1 I cannot see how it can have been other than Anglo Saxon English. Anyway, thanks for your exchanges. I have learned much today. Good night and happy new year (1 hour away here in Japan)

[gradyloy1]

@gradyloy1 It is likely Gregory favored the Anglo Saxons as his people in Britain because he felt (1) he wanted them in the church - he already had the Welsh and (2) he feared that between Pelagianism and the politics of the Frankish church he was better off with a fresh slate. (Brunhilda could certainly have delivered extensive conversions in Britain is she wanted) It did not turn out to be that good of a strategy although his agents did manage eventually to convert the Anglo Saxons.

[gradyloy1]

@LeeHoxton1 Bede was wrong on this. The British refused Augustine because he was bishop of a country whose vassals had just destroyed a couple of their kingdoms (Verulamnium, Berenicia) and Aethelfrith, quite differently from Edwin and Ethelbert was a homicidal maniac. They could not comprehend Augustine's/Paulinus' elevation to lordship over christians of people whose kings ordered the butchery of christian clergy. Clumsy. The Franks were far more clever in their dealings.