Pendulum drive = 80% efficient (this is optimistic for a gas powered device
Oscillator = 98% with low friction bearings, streamlined moving parts, no vibrations
Generator = 90% for top of the range
Overall efficiency = 70.6%.
As you can never eliminate friction, heat loss, etc you're never going to exceed 100%. That is why an oscillator can never be self powered even though the idea seems tantalizingly close.
@LiamXaoh WOOPS; I think you missunderstod me. I will be looking for an energy sorce that will power the pendulum. It is posibel to use the gasoline directly to power the pendulum without burning it in a 30% efficant internal combustion engine.
The BTUs of energy in a gallon of gasoline is enough to drive a modern automobile over 300 miles at 55 mph "IF" it were not for the inefficancies ie. drive train, transmition , Rearend, and the list goes on. Turn the pendulum into a motor
@LiamXaoh Math I uderstand and this is the best explanation anyone has given me. 1 being 100% anything less than 1 multiplyed by something else less than 1 is a greater inefficiency , and to keep multiplying by less than one only compounds the inefficiency. Seeing as the oscillator IS a motor and a little more than 90% efficiant . It would only make since to look for a more efficent way to power the pendulum AND it could not be a sorce of power that could dirctly turn a generator
@RHEAD100 - here is the math. Option 1: Motor (30% efficient) Oscillator (90% efficient) Generator (80% efficient) Overall efficiency = 30 x 90 x 80 = 21.6% Option 2: Motor (30% efficient) Generator (80% efficient) Overall efficiency = 30 x 80 = 24% Insert whatever % you think are correct but I think mine are close to right.
@RHEAD100 - If this device was 100% efficient then whatever you use to drive it would still only produce the same power as if the motor was connected directly to the generator. As it has to be less than 100% efficient there is not point in using this device between a motor and generator.
For it to be effective it would have to provide over-unity, and it doesn't.
@LiamXaoh Hi Liam ; The one thying you seem to be missing is that if it is not over unity it is more than worth my time to investagate it. As it seems to be the MOST efficant use of what ever fuil you may wish to use to drive it. What "IF" you could build a Gizmothchit (Motor) that burned gasoline to p[ower the 2 stage osciillator and and produced twice as much electricity as a standered generator.
@RHEAD100 - I was just suprised you're still doing this as I thought some time ago I saw a good explanation as to why it isn't putting out more than in. For a start the energy in and out isn't able to be measured in inch pounds as that is torque not power. Secondly I doubt whether you or your supporters will believe any explanation that explains why it isn't doing what you think it is doing.
@LiamXaoh Hi Liam ; Long time no hear from you. I am not sure the pendulum puts out more power than it takes to run it. "Howevery " I have failed to prove it does not.
So far I have proven that 20 inch pounds is all that is needed to drive the pendulum and the pendulum is putting out over 300 inch pounds of energy.
You seem to be very intelagent , SO I am asking for your help. There are plenty of Book thiory as why is nis not. HELP me do an experiment that proves it .
@RHEAD100 - even assuming the following:
Pendulum drive = 80% efficient (this is optimistic for a gas powered device
Oscillator = 98% with low friction bearings, streamlined moving parts, no vibrations
Generator = 90% for top of the range
Overall efficiency = 70.6%.
As you can never eliminate friction, heat loss, etc you're never going to exceed 100%. That is why an oscillator can never be self powered even though the idea seems tantalizingly close.
LiamXaoh 1 month ago
@LiamXaoh This may explain a little better
It will not let me send a link SO ; , just type in the youtube serch engine " sterling pendulum "
RHEAD100 1 month ago
@LiamXaoh WOOPS; I think you missunderstod me. I will be looking for an energy sorce that will power the pendulum. It is posibel to use the gasoline directly to power the pendulum without burning it in a 30% efficant internal combustion engine.
The BTUs of energy in a gallon of gasoline is enough to drive a modern automobile over 300 miles at 55 mph "IF" it were not for the inefficancies ie. drive train, transmition , Rearend, and the list goes on. Turn the pendulum into a motor
RHEAD100 1 month ago
@LiamXaoh THANKS Liam ; You have me thinking in a whole differant direction.
RHEAD100 1 month ago
@LiamXaoh Math I uderstand and this is the best explanation anyone has given me. 1 being 100% anything less than 1 multiplyed by something else less than 1 is a greater inefficiency , and to keep multiplying by less than one only compounds the inefficiency. Seeing as the oscillator IS a motor and a little more than 90% efficiant . It would only make since to look for a more efficent way to power the pendulum AND it could not be a sorce of power that could dirctly turn a generator
RHEAD100 1 month ago
LiamXaoh 1 month ago
@RHEAD100 - If this device was 100% efficient then whatever you use to drive it would still only produce the same power as if the motor was connected directly to the generator. As it has to be less than 100% efficient there is not point in using this device between a motor and generator.
For it to be effective it would have to provide over-unity, and it doesn't.
LiamXaoh 1 month ago
@LiamXaoh Hi Liam ; The one thying you seem to be missing is that if it is not over unity it is more than worth my time to investagate it. As it seems to be the MOST efficant use of what ever fuil you may wish to use to drive it. What "IF" you could build a Gizmothchit (Motor) that burned gasoline to p[ower the 2 stage osciillator and and produced twice as much electricity as a standered generator.
RHEAD100 1 month ago
@RHEAD100 - I was just suprised you're still doing this as I thought some time ago I saw a good explanation as to why it isn't putting out more than in. For a start the energy in and out isn't able to be measured in inch pounds as that is torque not power. Secondly I doubt whether you or your supporters will believe any explanation that explains why it isn't doing what you think it is doing.
LiamXaoh 1 month ago
@LiamXaoh Hi Liam ; Long time no hear from you. I am not sure the pendulum puts out more power than it takes to run it. "Howevery " I have failed to prove it does not.
So far I have proven that 20 inch pounds is all that is needed to drive the pendulum and the pendulum is putting out over 300 inch pounds of energy.
You seem to be very intelagent , SO I am asking for your help. There are plenty of Book thiory as why is nis not. HELP me do an experiment that proves it .
RHEAD100 1 month ago