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John Gross denies existance of molten metal

John Gross, one of the lead engineers of the NIST report is quesitoned about the existance of molten steel at the WTC building, the collapse of Building 7, and also explains how the NIST report did...  
 
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bparzonz (7 hours ago) Show Hide
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It doesn't matter. They could have found jelly beans, or moon rocks and it would be just as relevant. Thermite doesn't have to ability to cut steel support beams like would be needed to take down the towers.

And everyone always follows up with "nanothermite"!! But this is still in prototype. Even if somehow they had a "secretly developed sample", they still would not be able to pack the amount of explosive into the required canister to adequately buckle the steel columns.
Tetco01 (3 days ago) Show Hide
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look how nervous he becomes when the question about molten steel is asked. This is embarassing to basic intelligence, and NIST are a disgrace to victims of 911.

You can see how hard it must be for these guys to constantly lie and cover up, facts that are just so in-your-face.

This is a global problem, and im from being from the UK, ive also studied the London bombngs - are trust me, they're even more balant that this whole "war of terror" utter BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
bparzonz (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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If molten steel were indeed present, the temperatures would radiate around the same temperatures. Even if it was several hundred degrees less, firefighter suits can only withstand 1000 degrees for 18 sec. For them to be simply observing molten steel and working around it is very unlikely.
LDRinbrampton (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Those are good pieces of info right there. If the nasa therms shots show temps of 800 degrees only, it'd be pretty hard to state that temps of 2500 were present. And knowing exactly what temps firefighter suits can handle is pretty important. This topic is debatable on so many levels it's frustrating. So with this info we can only deduce that thermite wasn't used. The big issue that nobody knows yet tho is whether or not the attack was either known by gov't beforehand, or initiated by them.
Tetco01 (3 days ago) Show Hide
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What are you talking about? - thermite particles were found in samples of the dust? I know this is hard to accept - but people have to face the real truth, as the evidence is just to cut and dry!
There is zero chance that the bush admin were not invloved in this. Come on, tme to wake up now. The goverments control nothing - they are there for our enterainment only. Its the men in the shadows who we need to expose. These are the same people who run the newspapers, news channes etc etc.
bparzonz (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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it is not a matter of everything having to be the same temperature.
But perhaps I was over hasty. "bursting into flames" perhaps wouldn't happen. But, the temperature of molten steel is much much hotter than even the lava pits of Hawaii. Approaching "inactive" lava pits there, even downwind, can cause severe bilsters and 3rd degree burns.
Now the trade center collapse will have produced a very enclosed space which does not release heat easily, (hence the high temperatures for weeks after).
bparzonz (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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mostly because steel is extremely unlikely. Everyone agrees that the temperatures of the fires did not reach the correct temperature to melt steel, and the only reason there would be any would be controlled demolition. What I was refuting here was that the color proved there was steel in the substance, as the substances color is not definitive of a certain type of metal. Plenty of other factors can cause the orange color observed.
WhitePOWER173 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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There was MANY EYE WITNESSES THERE THAT DAY THAT "HEARD" THE EXPLOSIONS ASS!
WhitePOWER173 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Any of you TRUTH HATER'S on here that don't get it, GET IT! Stupid bastards over 700 scientist say now that 911 was an inside job so, get your GD FACTS STRAIGHT before you spout the F off assholes!
WhitePOWER173 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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Look how NERVOUS THE BASTARD IS!

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