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John Gross denies existance of molten metal

John Gross, one of the lead engineers of the NIST report is quesitoned about the existance of molten steel at the WTC building, the collapse of Building 7, and also explains how the NIST report did...  
 
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AiresQX4 (1 week ago) Show Hide
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Would you like a video showing Giuliani and others testifying
there were temps of over 2000 degrees?
bparzonz (1 week ago) Show Hide
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I don't understand your logic. If the temps were over 2000 degrees then why would it need be a controlled demolition? The towers would have collapsed of their own accord.

I suppose you could say, "how would they have gotten to over 2000? The fires don't burn that hot. Someone must have caused it" But the use of thermite would not have brought the overall temps fo the towers to 2000, just in specific places where the columns needed to be cut.
AiresQX4 (1 week ago) Show Hide
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Go look how close photographers get to running Lava and then tell me they couldn't do it..
bparzonz (1 week ago) Show Hide
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Running lava. How many photographers do you know running around next to Running lava. Not like the pits in Hawaii with the tours etc... Watch videos of volcanic eruption. There are no photographers running next to these rivers of molten rock which are over 1000 degrees less in temperature than steel.

There is also a thing called zoom.
AiresQX4 (1 week ago) Show Hide
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Blatant is the word.
wsm2c (2 weeks ago) Show Hide
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And by the way go to 1:02 and you will see that this steel was not gradually heated and bent,then to break. It had something placed on it in a specific area to burn straight through the steel. You may also need to check out the fact that the week before 9/11 the power system in the North tower was shut down and so called maintenance workers were seen on the floors around the impact area and above(not below) working on areas of steel.
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Thermite doesn't have a hot enough burning temp to cut or melt steel but Thermate does and that was what is seen dripping from the steel columns during the fires. Along with the white ash coming from the dripping steel. This is a great video.
bparzonz (3 weeks ago) Show Hide
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It doesn't matter. They could have found jelly beans, or moon rocks and it would be just as relevant. Thermite doesn't have to ability to cut steel support beams like would be needed to take down the towers.

And everyone always follows up with "nanothermite"!! But this is still in prototype. Even if somehow they had a "secretly developed sample", they still would not be able to pack the amount of explosive into the required canister to adequately buckle the steel columns.
AiresQX4 (1 week ago) Show Hide
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That's the biggest cop out I've ever seen.
bparzonz (1 week ago) Show Hide
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Okay, well then lets look at the why people believe thermite was used.

The evidence for thermite was, in fact 1,3-diphenylpropane found in large quantities at the site. It is the residue that is left over after the reaction takes place. Yes, this was there in large numbers but the fact is, a thermite reaction isn't the only thing that causes this substance. Most reasonable sources believe it was most likely produced by the plastic of tens of thousands of burning computers.

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