polyrhythm 2/8 over 7/8
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@Lv24Magmar as long as they are not singing about angsty teenage shit like all the mallcore bands i see no issues to his vocals.
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@Lv24Magmar Its called clean singing. The guy from tesseract (or at least the ex vocalist) has a naturally higher tone of voice, hes not trying to sound emo or trendy at all (i follow vocal lessons so i can tell). And why should they keep themselves to cliché metal standards? thats exactly the whole point why they get recognition, not because they are trying to sound trendy but because they are doing something else in a style where everyone is pretty much copieing one another.
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@Guyverhoeven I call it emo because it's just teenage vocals singing "beautifully" to attract the female audience and get more money. Technically you could say it's selling out because the whole point of metal is to be harsh and heavy, but the image these bands have these days is too similar to boybands, and that is the main issue I have with them. The only album I like by Meshuggah is Obzen, I can agree with you there.
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@Lv24Magmar tesseract's vocals are brilliant. And im really tired of closeminded people calling it emo. Again you really shouldn't hold a grudge to vocals like that just because some other bands with a ''emo'' image used similair.Not to mention that a mix between clean and rough vocals like that take far more skill then doing rough vocals all the time liek Meshuggah.
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@Lv24Magmar Its not death metal at all. Maybe abit melodic death metal in some cases, but with the weird time signatures and technical rythms its still more Progressive metal then anything else.
And i don't agree what you are saying about the vocals. A mix between clean and rough vocals is what brings a totaly new dimension to it and makes it modern. And don't call it emo, You are just judging something because off others bands their image.
And Meshuggah sounds terrible imo.
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@Guyverhoeven Yeah the only thing really new about it is the guitar tone. I think it's trying to compete with dubstep really :P But yeah technically it's just death metal. It's a sad shame it got the trendy emo vocals like in Periphery and Tesseract, totally kills it for me. Only Meshuggah and Vildjharta are really "Metal Djent" in my opinion.
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@Lv24Magmar Dissagree, Djent is just a new form in Progressive metal. Djent isn't the first thing to bring forth polyrythmns to metal either. Its also pretty much based on the sound instead of musical elements, Djent is just progressive metal, its not a genre,rather a movement imo. Even tough people seem to have alot of different opinions on this. Altough i agree that its the first thing in a LONG time to bring forth something new and fresh to the metalgenre.
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@iAmSkylit I'm in agreement. Though I disagree with aaron that a "core" genre is less technical or musical than some so-called purist metal genre. Between the buried and me is a perfect example, as are the likes of Painted in Exile and Beneath the Massacre.
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@Aarongtr180 You say that as though being less technical makes it less musically adept. Djent is not an excuse for more chugging, it's an excuse to incorporate a largely ignored concept (polyrhythms) into a genre that doesn't see much originality these days.
the master of djent
neilorourke71 3 weeks ago 9
where was the polyrhythm? i mean, okay, 2/8, but you were just playing single notes and then scales--no 2/8 feel, really. If I hadn't heard you say "two/eight" I would've assumed that you were just playing in 7.
Theseventhknight 2 months ago 3