Pagan Christianity part 2

"That the Christians in the apostolic age erected special houses of
worship is out of the question.... As the Saviour of the world was
born in a stable, and ascended to heaven from a mountain, so his
apostles and their successors down to the third century, preached in
the streets, the markets, on mountains, in ships, sepulchres, eaves,
and deserts, and in the homes of their converts. But how many thousands
of costly churches and chapels have since been built and are
constantly being built in all parts of the world to the honor of the
crucified Redeemer, who in the days of his humiliation had no place
of his own to rest his head!"
—PHILIP SCHAFF, NINETEENTH-CENTURY AMERICAN CHURCH
HISTORIAN AND THEOLOGIAN

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[IDpsalm14]

Even-though I disagree with you I liked this video, i think it has a good point,but "the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. And God has placed in the church first of all apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, of helping, of guidance, and of different kinds of tongues. Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? 30 Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues[d]? Do all interpret? " 1 Corin1-27

[PreacherTHC]

@u2bMODERATOR thank you my friend! And I appreciate your input!

[PreacherTHC]

@u2bMODERATOR defiantly! I agree with this, there are many different positions in the ministry of the church, and some positions have more responsibility that others. However Jesus is the head not ANY pope, priest, teacher, pastor or preacher. Sometimes we are so intent on Having "Church" that God sits back and lets us have 'Church". And we don't realize that what were doing is actually keeping GOD from anointing us with his FULL blessing!

[u2bMODERATOR]

@PreacherTHC We need to be careful because the devil plays in the both sides of the field , with his thesis+ antithesis= synthesis. Anyway, some very good points in the video!

[u2bMODERATOR]

Also, we can´t forget that the Devil wants to spread to conquer, letting the weak without references,and thinking all Christian institutions are failing. And there are more than 7000 that have not knelled before Baal. I´m seeing also a revival of the law,using Judaism to promote a legalistic vision of heaven, with translations of names and words, that are a mere semantic.This is also a confusion.In my country, many started by the name in Hebraic of Jesus, ended in questioning his divinity.

[u2bMODERATOR]

@PreacherTHC I understand. But I´m a bit afraid of the oposite too. Too many Arminian, Calvin, and many others taking the place of Jesus. We are in the culture of egocentric way of worship. Peoples are gathering Preachers according to their wishes. Also, questioning authorities of the real chosen, as leaders. In the apostolic system in the bible, i see that there is yes, a hierarchy, not as in a Company ( the way many are doing), but as a body with different responsibilities.

[PreacherTHC]

@u2bMODERATOR You are absolutely right about that! YHWH GOD sure does intend for the church & ministry to serve and help the body of Christ. However as you will see in the next videos to come on this subject; That the way we "do" Church today mainly in America; is NOT the way Yahshua(Jesus) & The Apostles had Intended!

[u2bMODERATOR]

So, i understood the point of the video. But we can´t be independent Christians , because God made the church and ministry to serve each other.

[u2bMODERATOR]

@u2bMODERATOR I my opinion , the different ministries need to be respected , not as a path to God, but with the honor that the Bible teaches us . Hebrews 13:17 Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you.

[u2bMODERATOR]

it is an interesting point . But also, i believe they needed to gather together in houses because they were persecuted . Also in the bible there are references to different activities made by different class of members. Ephesians 4:11-12 11And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

12For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: