Defensor Fidei - Lesson Eleven: Jesus = Michael the Archangel?!?
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the new world translation is on no recognized bible verse lookup web sites, for a reason. if jesus christ were to be anyone in the bible, he would be a reincharnate of malchizedek. angels are not gods. there is one god. 1st john 5:7. ur fake bible doesnt have that verse. look it up in the king james
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Why would any Trinitarian use John 17 as evidence for the divinity of Christ or the existence of the Trinity? The entire chapter revolves around Christ's prayer and call for unity between all those set apart and made holy for God.
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Why use the same titles or go by the same pseudonyms if they are not one in the same? That makes Jesus either of two things: a liar or God incarnate. Are you calling Christ a liar?
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Read John 10:30.
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So all these years with blinkers on? I apologise if I do not find your arguments to be cogent.
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Again, read the chapter in its entirety, e.g. verse 13. How can Jesus offer someone eternal life unless he has the power to do so? Who can grant eternal life but God?
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@SteveSpitz1981 Jesus has a God....Jesus was a Jew...His God is JAH..YHWH..Jehovah. He prayed to him..He served him...He had faith in him.
Jesus wants you to worship his God and Father......
Read John 4 :21-26 What does it say?
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@SteveSpitz1981 Steve...I have been debating trinitarians for years...even they do not use this verse as proof of the trinity for the reasons I have already given to you.
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@SteveSpitz1981 God and Jesus hold many of the same titles..Lord.Savior, Shepherd, King....it doesn't make them a triune god.
My second point is Jude 1:9 in the New World Translation. It speaks again of Michael and cross-references Daniel 10:13 which states, "... and, look! Mi´cha·el, one of the foremost princes, came to help me; and I, for my part, remained there beside the kings of Persia". St. Michael apparently is not the only archangel and I originally learned that in the NWT.
fezik82 2 years ago 8
This is a great video! I would like to add two points. In Lk 10:18, Christ states that He has seen Satan fall from heaven like lightning & we do know that Satan is in the world. In the NWT, this vs. CR's Rev 12:8. Vs 7 states that Michael & his angels battled w/the dragon... reading chap 11 & 12, "the woman" was pregnant w/the "male who is to shepherd all the nations w/an iron rod" (Rev 12:5). The WTS states that if Christ were God, He would say so. Lk 10:18 does not state that He is Michael.
fezik82 2 years ago 8