Vinko Globokar, Der Engel der Geschichte

1.Teil: Zerfall
For two orchestras and tape
I like to pick up new stuff at the library and that's where I found a CD of the Donaueschinger Musiktage 2000 today. This piece by Globokar might be the weirdest thing I have ever heard, and, believe me, I have heard alot! PUT ON HEADPHONES AND TURN IT ALL THE WAY UP!!

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[Justino111]

Messiaen did use Nature as a sonic source for this music, but it is HOW he did it that was completely original. He never used the instrument to simply "copy" and "paste" the "culture" of birds. That's what Globokar did with the voices: he imported the sound; he didn't do anything with it other than the 'collage' approach. And the same goes to the multiple gestures throughout the piece: they are aliens. There is energy, I agree.I am not saying it's bad, it's just that it's not appealing to me.

[GreggaryPeccary]

Messiaen transcribed birdsongs, "copied and pasted" them to the piano. So what, how original! Organising the twelve notes in modes wasn't particular new, either. You either pick out this or this influence, stick it together and you have your style. VG permits a few more. Of course, the singing is left as it is, that makes it "collagey"

[ZigaIvanncthegreat]

very interesting! ;)

[Thrash0Jazz0Assassin]

It ain't the weirdest thing I've heard, but it is a lovely piece with an extremely interesting interaction between the out-of-context vocal samples and the instrumental gestures. Thumbs up!!

[cnotting]

Beautifull. If you like this? Then investigate the orchestral music of Frank Zappa.

[galas06]

thank you so much...!

[VELOURS22]

magnifique oeuvre !

[Justino111]

It is possible to create a new sound world from scratch. Electronic music proved this was possible long ago. And in orchestral music, one of the examples is Messiaen. And I will use Messiaen to answer your next statement too: "Bulgarian singing or col legno playing...but combining those two is something new." If that's true, then Bulgarian singing, col legno, fireworks and a dog barking is even newer!

[GreggaryPeccary]

It's "aural overload", thus creating a new sound world. It's probably impossible to create a new sound world from scratch, one always extrapolates from the familiar. Bulgarian singing or col legno playing is nothing new in itself, but combining those two is something new. I don't care about academic classifications, I enjoy the piece on a gut level

[Justino111]

the raw elements of this piece exist outside the piece itself. In this sense, this work does not need to exist. The piece becomes a conglomerate of redundancies. Complexity comes precisely from the manipulation of the raw material. But Globokar seems more concerned with stereotypes and gestures rather than the creation of a new sound world. You seem to worried about academic classifications. That's definitely not what I am looking for. It's just that the piece sounds superficial to my ears.