Victor 10-50 VERSUS HMV 1A Acoustic Horns

Comparison of the Victor 10-50 Orthophonic (Mostly wood) acoustic properties to the HMV A1 Automatic Re-entrant (all metal), Horn size on 10-50 is 16.5 x 34" = 562 sq. in. HMV 1A horn size is 38X16.25" = 617.5". Using the same record and same brass orthophonic reproducer. These machines are both changers. The 10-50 can hold 12 records either 10" or 12" only while the HMV can hold 20 records and can mix 10" or 12".

Category:

Music

Tags:

• Record Changer
• Phonograph
• Gramophone
• Talking machine
• Edison
• Victor Victrola

[2agray]

So the Victor is a metal horn and the HMV is wood? Brother can you tell the difference! The HMV is much more bold. Better bass response and volume.

[Moooperator]

The HMV is metal and the 10-50 is wood.

[bill3murr]

the record speed of the hmv is a bit fast it seems....but i do like the overall sound of it. thanks....what fun.

[Moooperator]

You are right... I didn't realize I had not set it back right after tinkering with it. After I posted this I went back and checked it an it was a smig fast.

[alltheway62]

nothing tops an emg with wilson horn using a 5a soundbox

[alltheway62]

the credenza sounds better than a hmv202 ! !

[Idelia412]

I did a comparison of the Victrola 10-50 that I own to a EMG Handmade Gramophone that I acquired over in England. The EMG machine sounds much better than either of these two machines. Do a search on Youtube and I think you will agree to the superior sound of a EMG Handmade Gramophone!

[alltheway62]

i thought my hmv202 was better sounding than my 10-50. but one needs to take care of airloss and try different soundboxes to get the best out your gramophone...

[alltheway62]

the real difference is in the lower notes,for that you have to be in the room.

[M1GARRAND1]

To be honest, the British machine is much more transparent than the 10-50. I really hate to admit it, but listen to how much easier it is to pick out the instruments on the HMV unit. The song stinks by the way.

[Moooperator]

@frenchmarky They are sitting directly across from one another with just a coffee table between them with the camera on the table. The HMV was set too fast by accident but the 10-50 was set at just under 78 rpm. I no longer have the HMV.

[frenchmarky]

In fact the HMV is running fast and the Victor sounds like it's VERY slow, I have this record so I am going by correct speed on my own player.

Plus I think to be completely comparative, both players should have been placed in the same place in the room so the acoustics would be identical, especially since it doesn't look like the microphone was very close to the horns. One is against a wall and another is more in the middle of a room (appears to be anyway?)

[Idelia412]

One machine I did do a comparison with my Victor 10-50 is an EMG Handmade Gramophone Mark IX model. Most U.S. collectors never have seen an EMG machine as they are British. I acquired the EMG when living in England back in the 1980's. What I can say they do sound better than a Orthophonic Victor 10-50. You would think they are electrically reproduced but are acoustical machines with large papermache horns.