Shogi News: Internationalized shogi pieces

I'll discuss internationalized pieces. After I show you 3 sets that I found on the web, I'll also show a set that I made myself.

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[kenijaru]

if king general looks like a king in western chess... maybe the jewel general could look like a queen in western chess? mainly because it still looks like a crown, but is diferent from the King's crown.

the dragon would be "standing" on a tower to help asimilate the "rook -> dragon" progression.

If i must choose one, i prefer yours, but to be honest i'd like the "simplified" kanji on top and a letter under it, for example: the "king" kanji and a K under it, or the "walking" kanji and a P.

[HIDETCHI]

Dragon on a Tower!!! Great idea. You're a genius.

But the problem is that it's hard to draw on only one piece.

Also, if we do that for the rook, we have to do the same thing for the bishop, too. I can't think of good combination of "pegasus" and "bishop's hat".

[HIDETCHI]

OK. I've made a rough drawing of it. How's that?

h t t p : / / twitpic . com/158i1t

[blauerninja]

Yeah, another idea: if the King's cross is black everyone will understand that it is the king of the black player. Maybe you can color the small rhomb on the bottom of the white King's crown in to white.

[HIDETCHI]

King and Jewel are not necessarily used by only one side, so you can't make them black nor white.

[blauerninja]

I like your style. But the 1st dragon looks best, I think. Shogi comes from Japan so why not to take a whiff of Asia? Your Pegasus in the new BGM-Software looks better than this one in the video. But the pawns look better in this video.

So, all in one your style is pretty good. When can we buy such Shogi-pieces?

PS: Ganbatte!

[HIDETCHI]

Thanks.

Many people tell me that they prefer eastern dragon, and I like the 1st dragon, too.

[kjk501225]

I think they should show how they can move but with the original shogi shape and color



[CouchTomato87]

@CouchTomato87 Here is an example of what I was talking about, using your pieces. I decided to ditch the bishop hat on the Horse and go with a pegasus, but at least with the pieces shaped as heads instead of entire animals, it looks more consistent with the rest of the pieces.

h t t p : / / shyguy . snorland . com / ct / ShogiWest . png

[CouchTomato87]

Dragon - Dragon head (like knight is a horse head) but with the rook "crown" on top. This way western players can see it came from a rook... and Japanese players can see it is a dragon. Not only is it a dragon, but the rook crown on top makes it a dragon king!

Horse - Not as easy, but something similar. I was thinking since the Japanese name is dragon horse, the dragon here could be more of a western dragon, or essentially a very fierce-looking horse head (w/ dragon wings)... with a bishop hat

[CouchTomato87]

I really like your piece set the most. I think the way you did it was flawless, but here are some other ideas I've had:

Kings - I was actually thinking that since shogi is a Japanese game, the king should be more Japanese. A Japanese shogun helmet instead of a king with a cross (very Christian). A red king and black king can solve the problem, or change the symbol on the helmet (one would have a moon or something)

[AronD2208]

I prefer the kanji pices but yours are cool too ps: I like the 2nd dragon best

[SeraphAP]

The play OK versions of the gold ganerals and silver generals *are* representative of what they are: they look like a star badge/medals that western general wear (although they look more like wild west "sheriff" badges). They were just clever and blended the badge with the movements of the pieces.

[NeosTest]

I've made my game in wood, and I made these symbols for my pieces :

h t t p : / / pierrenoire . site90 . com / others / pi%C3%A8ces%20shogi . jpg

They looks like the pieces in the game "Shotest Shogi" on Xbox 360. They are simple and show well the moves I think. Also, the letter on the top show the name of the piece, and show if it's promoted or not.

When I'll have the time, I'll make another set of pieces with kanjis :)

[EmilScherbe1]

I think (larger forests versions of)Doubutsu Shogi pieces is best answer.

Because it is neutral to cultures.

It is better to standardize any chaturanga variants games to use that kind of pieces.



[lusferno]

well i learned very well with playok pieces, and my first time playing was like the one with the pieces motion, but actually I kinda preffer the one of the crowns, I have seen them before, and it can make something more representative for a shogi game, but I didn't liked the pegasus Idea it can confuse some people with janus chess, and the dragon I think its ok, but would preffer it with a japanese dragon, after all, the game is from japan =)

[shion255]

I always thought the internationalised ones are for lazy asses, or rather lazy brains sorry ;)

The kanjis are not long to learn.