Muhammad Ali -vs- Ken Norton III 9/28/76 part 9

world heavyweight championship

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[vladiator100]

Norton made a mistake to cruise in that last round. Ali out boxed him for most of the round and it cost Norton. Ali won, by very thin margin but Ali did win.

[willsclassic]

Hats off to Ali for a well fought bout, but Norton beat him. Again.

And people wonder why boxing's given way to cage matches.

[324582782]

@spman2099 People don't know how to score, Alot of them think that marquez beat pacquiao but the fact is that pacquiao beat him even though it was a close fight. Just like that people wanted Norton ( an under dog ) to win the fight. When they see that its a close fight they wanted their man to win but norton lost. Doesn't mean norton won.

[MrPerryrice]

... I have a problem with you comparing the obvious lineal trend in the less complicated & less complex sport of footracing,with boxing which involves/requires far more variables/talents and skill in many more areas than a simple foot race. Aside from brute strength for speed,& conditioning for endurance,knowing when to accelerate,how many more variables,skills,smarts/heart/­ability is needed to run a few seconds? Doesn't even compare to all the variables and talents involved in boxing.

[MrPerryrice]

...anything cutting or breaking on you, & able to finish even if it does; heart enough to overcome adversity, fight through exhaustion, rise from the canvass to win a war of attrition; rally & score a last minute flurry, TKO, or knockout when you are behind and seemingly had nothing left. Then the skills, smarts & ability to avoid the damage in the first place. Modern HWs lag behind in all these categories. Plus, if the lineal argument held water Cooney would have beaten Larry Holmes. Also, I...

[MrPerryrice]

...last 1960s bout where he was living in hell. The 1971 Frazier who caught up to 1971 Ali all those times...wouldn't have caught the Ali Cleveland Williams faced in 1966 half as much.It's unimaginable that Joe could've escaped a decision loss to 1966 Ali, when he barely escaped the 71 version of Ali who was immensely more hittable. And the 1974 Ali that Joe couldn't lay a glove on, and almost decked by, wouldn't have been caught by anybody in history either. 66 & 74 Ali outpoints everybody.

[MrPerryrice]

@endajsheridan In such a tournament I pick the 1966 Ali vs Cleaveland Williams, & the 1974 versions of Ali vs Frazier (to at the least),outpoint any HW in history. Tho Cleve was pastprime,Ali's skill level,size,strength,& accuracy was so superior a mismatch for him,that not even a prime Williams could have made it a match. In this fight Ali was 25,had gotten bigger,gaining hitting power,sharpening his elusiveness,& was not yet beat down by the political & prison turmoil distracting him in his...

[endajsheridan]

@endajsheridan

first i have to say , I dont really like Vitali or Lennox lewis , But you must consider that big men who aren t clumsy or weak with very good skills can beat smaller heavyweights from other eras , This is a good example , Sugar Ray probably would have lost to Archie Moore , Do you agree ? In terms of pounds etc Archie had about 15-20 on Sugar. Sugar was taller or the same. So a man who simply is bit , could beat the best boxer of all time? Size matters in boxing .

[endajsheridan]

As a matter of interest , what would your top ten be.If you had to pick them on the basis ,that they are at their best and they have to fight a random great heavyweight tonight.Just one caution , consider the flying finn , the runner who won several Olympics gold medals years ago.If he ran today , he would be lapped.My point is the recent larger heavyweights with superb conditioning , nutrition etc would do better than most people would think.

[MrPerryrice]

...of HWs we see will be more talented than the ones from the 1960s thru 2000, but the present one certainly hasn't.