True News 35: Bush, Obama and the Torture of Morality

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• iraq
• libertarian

[Uaz31]

I think Obamas idea of looking to the future is like holding a carrot out on a stick to get a horse to go where to want it to.

[stefbot]

Yesss, I think that is an entirely brilliant observation! :)

[JRCrowley]

Obama is continuing every single policy that Bush started. At the same time, he lied about the war, wire-tapping, torture. All those things. Obama is a liar, and no different than Bush. At all.

[MishaLeontine1]

it is interesting that Newtons third law of motion also applies to philosophy and politics :D

[111imstupid111]

love the videos man. logic to the max.

[andyissemicool]

@APRtunedAudi; Stem cell research. Obama is a crook, but let's not let hyperbolic and facile statements like "NOTHING HAS CHANGED" infect the debate.

[Kioti077]

Well furthest I am concern Obama is is equally guilty , The only difference is the layer of hypocrisy that covers him , I hope the idiots that voted for him are happy with their choice , since they are helping to perpetuate this genocidal system , This shit will make a feral boar puke , fucking disgusting.,

[pelucas716]

wow cut obama some slack man, atleast is not the ignorant fool od bush

[omikron23]

Blackwater troops aren't bound to US-military regulations and therefore operate outside of the Geneva Convention and thus aren't protected by it. They clearly are criminals - even if this war was not fought outside of the law of nations. In that sense they are both illegal and criminal murderers. Of course they have to be imprisoned or taken out from a lawful perspective.

[omikron23]

From a legal perspective US soldiers in Iraq are illegal combatants. The law of nations has clearly condemned the US-invasion of Iraq. Therefore from the legal — not moral — perspective it is perfectly OK to torture and execute US 'soldiers' in Iraq. But let us not forget the large number of blackwater-mercenaries killing innocent Iraqi people and supporting illegal criminal US-activity over there.

[momardrame]

This is a classic case of "the end doesn't justify the means". Everyday, police officers around the country solve crimes and get criminals to confess; and they do so NOT by torturing them but by using proven interrogation techniques. If your local police can do that there is no reason why the CIA can't do the same.

[momardrame]

We are not talking about your beliefs though; we are talking about american laws and values. During WWI and WWII, captured german soldiers were not tortured to force them to reveal secrets on future German attacks. And if Tim McVeigh -when he was arrested- had a time bomb hidden somewhere , do you really think that he would have been tortured to reveal the bomb's location even though lives would have been at stake? I doubt it.