Indications of the Trinity #7

How do Jehovah's Witnesses honor Jesus like Jehovah, which he said to do in John Chapter 5?

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[pretoshohmoofc]

@SixStringDeity according to the trinity, jesus was the father

That is modalism not the Trinity. Modalists are oneness pentecostals an anti-trinitarian cult. Trinitarians reject modalism. So as long as you keep insisting that the Trinity is ONE PERSON with three names, you will continue to be ignorant and lost.

[pretoshohmoofc]

@SixStringDeity as to anthonys point about the father dying on the cross, you dont understand that he DOES understand the trinity,

Clearly he doesn't if the Father is the same PERSON as the Son there would be no point to THREE PERSONS within the one Godhead.

[SixStringDeity]

Respond to this video... my mentioning RC was to say, i have read all the great minds on this, BOTH sides. I understand your point of view well. and, its not biblical at all, nor does it make any sense, nor was it taught by christ or any one in the bible, and that IS provable. this is my position. as to anthonys point about the father dying on the cross, you dont understand that he DOES understand the trinity, and it leads to that conclusion, or, it leads to"mystery" . Jesus is not GOD

[SixStringDeity]

Respond to this video... in reality, the trinity is tri theist, 3 Gods. If YHWH is GOD, and JESUS is GOD, and THE SPIRIT , IS GOD, they are either all separate Gods, or logic falls apart. and, yes, logic is required, especially since the PROOF , via the scriptures , is not there. your left with a confusing, "mystery" in which you dont know who is God, or who is not, but they all are, but arnt. it is really nonsense. Anthony Buzzard is right on the money. but, you dont agree,ok

[SixStringDeity]

@sbgrox11 lets be clear. I DO understand the trinity. I never said , according to the trinity, jesus was the father. Howevr, the trinity is an ilogical theory. and, so, if you say jesus is god, and yhwh is god, they are both god, then, they are the same. of course you will say, "no, they are seoerate, but not as God, as God they are one, as persons, or essence, or something else, they are not" right. i get it. it makes no sense. u can argue forever, it will make no sense, in reality

[pretoshohmoofc]

@sbgrox11 Do your own homework, type in 'modalism' and 'Trinity' in the internet. you will get 10,000 webpages telling you that modalism is the most common misconception of the Trinity.

[pretoshohmoofc]

@sbgrox11 Here is a quote from R.C. Sproul's Book "Defending your Faith". on page 42 it reads..

"the historic doctrine of the Trinity asserts that God is one in essence, or substance, and three in person. If we write this in logical terms it would look like the following:God is one in A (essence), and three in B (persons). According to this principle, we see the the Trinity does not violate logic."

So, i'm sorry but as for Dr Sproul you have been mistaken. As for Buzzard, he's the problem.

[pretoshohmoofc]

@sbgrox11 Well no wonder you think that the Trinity is modalism. I debated Mr Anthony Buzzard personally. And he thinks the Trinity is modalism as well. He told me and I quote, "The father did not die on the cross.". I answered him, "I know, we don't believe that either".

As for RC Sproul I need for you to give me ONE quote from the internet where Dr Sproul EVER said that the Father is the Son and I will become a JW tonight. I know this because I own his books.

[pretoshohmoofc]

@sbgrox11 Even that reply showed me your ignorance on this subject. How can you claim that a belief is wrong, if you don't even know what it is?

First lean the differance between modalism and the Trinity, then we'll talk about the Trinity and how wrong it is. Until then, you're just talking ignorant.

[pretoshohmoofc]

@sbgrox11 honoring them equaly does not mean that they are equal, nor does it mean that they are the same person. Jesus is the representative of the father, he is NOT the father.

What you are mistaking is modalism for the Trinity. Modalism teaches that the Son IS the Father. Modalists are anti-trinitarians. Trinitarians do not teach this. The subject of the video is on the Trinity. So you are right, there is no trinity here.