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[joestfrancois]

No Steve, no one was born sinful either.

[pastorsteveathope]

@joestfrancois Sorrry. Yes, Joe, all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

[joestfrancois]

Anybody watching, you don't have to do this. You were not born "bad" or "evil." You do not need for a man to be tortured to death for anything you have done. Blood rituals are a relic from pre-history and not needed. Reject Human Sacrifice, embrace reason. Join the 21st century.  Demand evidence and reject superstition!!

[pastorsteveathope]

@joestfrancois You're right, Joe. No one was born bad, just sinful. Embrace reason. Repent and believe the Gospel!

[filoIII]

Steve, did you say one must first turn away from sin in order to be saved? How can a dead man turn from sin first?

[pastorsteveathope]

@filoIII Sometimes I say it that way, sometimes the other. I try to be consistent by saying that one must trust Christ and then repent. Good call! I was in the middle of traffic...

[DiVeronica]

lunatic

[Alexp0wns]

@Killer0fTheSun What are you trying to prove, that he's a retard? Do you not love God is calling others retard,s Gods will?

[Killer0fTheSun]

@doobersmanster

1. The only lie is your faith.

2. Your judgemnet is no more "righteous" than another believers.

3. Your version of hell is from Constatine's editing of the canons and mistranslation of the original latin and hebrew. There are no mentions of hell in the original canons.

4. Sin is a religious construct. And terefore has no bearing on me whatsoever.

Try agian retard

[doobersmanster]

@Killer0fTheSun Go ahead and keep falling for the lies. That is not true. whoever told you that is lying. Fool, well my judgement is rightous.I do not fear hell for my God is my strong tower in him I trust, not my frail weak works and words." A whip for the back of fools is what I say". You called me a retard:) You don't want to believe in Hell does not make it true. Turn from your sin now and seek God while you are of the quick. Godbless and may Godbless your family too:)

[Killer0fTheSun]

@doobersmanster

The bible also states that "whomever calls thou fool is in danger of hellfire themselves." -- Matthew 5:22. The NT is the only canon that has your version of hell whereas the bibles preceeding the english translations has nothing of the sort. So now what do you do knowing this?

[doobersmanster]

@Killer0fTheSun I am retard? Thanks for letting me know:) Well, the Bible says that a "fool says in thier heart there is no God". Jesus said that there is a Hell and if you do not trust in him you will burn in Hell forever. All you have to do is trust Jesus for your salvation and you don't have to Burn in Hell> Isn't that nice of God? Godbless you and have a wonderful day:)

[Killer0fTheSun]

@doobersmanster

Only retards believe there is an eternal torture room. Your an unquestionable retard.

[Killer0fTheSun]

@pastorsteveathope

Then god itself is sinful according to your ridiculous faith.

[zaminium]

key words: TAKE ADVANTAGE

[joestfrancois]

@doobersmanster said "Also there are many recordings of Miricles associated with Jesus all over the world."

Ok then, quit just saying there are, give me some examples of miracles, with names and times and verification that something did occur.

As far as your bible, it is a very-much copied manuscript, yes. It does not date from the lifetime of Jesus and does not include eyewitness accounts. That is verified. Sorry. I do hope you get over your superstition in your lifetime.

[doobersmanster]

@joestfrancois I have said many times that Evidence that demands a verdict is a good collection of evidence. I have shown you evidence and you reject it. You say it has been disproven and I say it has not so I guess there is nothing that will convince you except maybe a curse from God, or a Miricle in your own life. I will pray for you that you see a miracle and come to grips with your eteranl destiny. Jesus does love you and cares for you and so do I:)