NOT WRITTEN BY ME. This is written by an agnostic that I know on facebook.
NOTE: Since he wrote this, he has become a deist, investigating Christianity.
Second, seriously, stop playing games with the definition of the word "atheist". Atheists have traditionally been defined in academia as denial of the existence of God, not a mere "lack of belief". This lack of belief nonsense is a recent innovation.
@atheistman09
...does not mean that they both are wrong. It means that one is wrong.
KabaneTheChristian 6 months ago
@atheistman09
That's just pure relativism. Whether you believe in the Bible or not, there is one meaning that it has. You claim to have left evangelicalism and you claim to have investigated the Bible, but you still retain the same evangelical interpretation of the Bible, which is why I doubt you've done depth study. As I've investigated the Bible, I've significantly changed my views. You also just begged the question about "true Christianity." Just because there are multiple opinions...
KabaneTheChristian 6 months ago
@atheistman09
There you go, that's what I was looking for. You've just explained, in a simple manner, the evangelical doctrine of penal substitution, which is a lie. The Bible does not teach that God the Father acquired a large amount of wrath which He expended on Jesus so that He did not have to expend it on us.
KabaneTheChristian 6 months ago
@atheistman09
Well yes, but I asked you how that is accomplished. How does Jesus cleanse us from sin through the Cross?
KabaneTheChristian 6 months ago
@atheistman09
Do you? You may have a good understanding about what evangelical "Christianity" teaches, but I seriously doubt you have an understanding about what the Scripture teaches. For example, in what way, according to the New Testament, does Jesus save humanity from sin?
KabaneTheChristian 6 months ago
@atheistman09
Oh, I agree with that. I only dispute that you actually meet those criteria. I don't intend this to be insulting. For the vast majority of my Christian life, I didn't understand it either. And it doesn't surprise me that you used to be religious, but you were a Western Christian, right? I believe that Western Christianity has very little to do with biblical, ancient Christianity.
KabaneTheChristian 6 months ago
@atheistman09
You may or may not become an Orthodox Christian, but you will assuredly gain a much better understanding of the biblical text and most likely, a much greater respect for the Christian faith, whether you come to believe in it personally or not. Every atheist who I have met who has done this has gained a much greater respect for the Bible and for Christianity.
What is "well enough?" How do you determine that?
KabaneTheChristian 6 months ago
@atheistman09
Dude, reading the Bible straight through isn't "doing your homework" unless you are an Ancient Near Eastern Jew fluent in Greek and Hebrew. Without an understanding of the culture and languages of the Bible, you will never understand the Bible. Never. Remember that it was an agnostic that wrote the words I read in this video.
KabaneTheChristian 6 months ago
No one is "playing games" with definitions. Words are a part of language which is a tool that arises from experience. As experience changes and we accumlate knowledge, language and by association, words change in meaning and value. Getting upset because the use of a term has evolved is as childish as being upset that various cultures have different languages.
Nucleosynthesisftw1 10 months ago
I really enjoyed this. Thanks for posting it.
BicycleBuiltFor2 11 months ago