Did the Old Testament Jews believe in a triune God?
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Jesus Christ is the chief agent of life, the agent that the true God used to create all things. Created by God THROUGH Jesus Christ. So, "Let US make man in OUR image" doesn't mean the two are the same being, it shows the order in which God chooses to do things!!
Lad24LFC 2 months ago
@bobo577 So we agree to some extent. I just try to keep all the laws in the Torah, not to attain salvation or work my way to paradise, but instead because I love the Creator. The Torah shows us our sin, and it shows us what HaShem desires from His people. It's not a forced yoke upon us anymore, we are free to keep it, or free to stray from it- I choose to keep it. It might sound confusing, but I go back to Ecclesiastes 12:13, where it accurately sums up the Bible in it's entirety.
OneCrayGuy89 2 months ago
@OneCrayGuy89 The law does show us what God doesn't like. Paul said he wouldn't know what covetousness was without the law. I recommend watching David Pawson, he does a better job of this than I do.
bobo577 2 months ago
@OneCrayGuy89 I didn't say Jesus made new laws, "The Law of Christ" is found in Galatians. The New Covenent replaces the Old Covenent, both were made with Jews. Jesus. fulfill in Greek is kataluo, "to loosen down". The Law of Moses was created to show our inability to keep God's holy, upright standard. Does this mean freedom to lie, cheat or steal or covet or bow before a statue? Absolutely not. You are correct however that Jesus frees us from the penalty of death so we could have life.
bobo577 2 months ago
@bobo577 The Law of Christ? He made new laws, huh? Funny, I've read the Bible and nowhere does he mention any new laws. He mentions old laws, and the placement of said laws upon the heart. Also, do you know what "fulfill" means in the Greek and Hebrew sense? It doesn't make it void, as in the English sense, rather, it means to bring into full meaning- hence, "placing the Law within our hearts." We still follow the Law, we just don't suffer the punishment of death.
OneCrayGuy89 2 months ago
@OneCrayGuy89 Even divorcing AND remarrying except for martial faithfulness is adultery.
bobo577 2 months ago
@OneCrayGuy89 And he fulfilled the Torah. I am aware that Jesus is talking about the Pharisee's ceremonial washing. I wasn't denying the law itself, I'm simply saying we are under the Law of Christ not the Law of Moses. The Law of Christ shows we are not under Sabbath and Tithe but the moral section is much stricter. For example, hatred of a person is murder and lusting after someone is adultery. Even divorcing AND remarrying except for martial faithfulness.
bobo577 2 months ago
@bobo577 Ummm.... According to the NT, all the laws of the Torah are still applicable. 1 John 5:1-3, Romans 3:31, Acts 24:14, Matthew 5:17-20, 1 John 2:3-7, Luke 16:17.
Also, about the eating of the unclean foods, how about you read that verse in context? As Jesus was talking about washing your hands before eating, not eating unclean foods. If you read the entire Bible, it will become clear that it is one document, not two "testaments." Jesus isn't against the Torah, he taught it.
OneCrayGuy89 2 months ago
@OneCrayGuy89 One has to read the New Testament carefully to see how many of the 613 commandments of the Mosaic Covenant apply to us today and which have been fulfilled in Christ. Tithing and Sabbath are mentioned but not when speaking to Gentile believers. There is however a principle of giving and the days that people observe are a matter of individual conscience.
bobo577 2 months ago
@OneCrayGuy89 The commandments that are carried over as orders to Gentiles are the one that need to be kept as I mentioned before. It is true Jesus did say it's what comes out of a man's mouth makes him unclean and Christians and Jews who turn to Jesus can eat all foods, Act 15 however tells us to abstain from blood, but nevertheless one can consume meat provided the blood is removed. The only principles in Christianity in regards to clothing is modest dress code and not to be a transvestite.
bobo577 2 months ago