@MrGarrett1911 That is not entirely true. They served many functions depending on the time period,and political climate. Some Daimyo had ninja employed as spies and assassins some had then in command positions within their troop's ranks. Many were simply freedom fighters waging a guerilla war against oppressive local lords. Either way it was less of a "martial art" and more of an occupation or position.
and for the record, this is WAY off-topic from the original discussion. We were originally discussing Ninja, and then you start talking about how you think ancient Japanese warriors were inferior all-around. Unless you are in possession of a time machine, you cannot claim to know that for a fact. I'm only saying they weren't necessarily inferior, and I have yet to hear a good argument that they were. The fact that you would turn the discussion in this direction shows me you are a racist.
to be honest, I think that you are an extremely bigoted individual who is looking for any excuse to say that warriors from your culture are inherently better than those of another culture. I bet you watch "Deadliest Warrior" often because your logic is as flawed as theirs usually is. You point out that the Japanese have borrowed western ideas, and that's true, but westerners have a long history of borrowing from the east, too. Marco Polo, for instance? The world does not revolve around Europe.
and when the Japanese started using thicker steel plate, it wasn't because westerners introduced it. It was because guns had become much more common (westerners did introduce that) and they were adapting with thicker armor. They took ideas from western armor, but adapted them in their own way. Much the same thing happened in Europe. As firearm technology advanced, armor became thicker and thicker and eventually too heavy to be worth wearing, so they discarded it.
A single edge allows you to use your other hand for added leverage without having to risk cutting your hand or having to keep one part of your sword duller. I might also mention that the Katana works equally well as a one-handed or two-handed weapon (look at musashi if you don't believe me.) Also, a curve in a sword can be an advantage if you know how to use it properly to snake around someone's guard. Also, the Katana was specially suited for quickdraw attacks, which can also be a big edge.
I personally think that you don't know anything about swords except what you have read in books. I have practiced with both a Katana and a Broadsword made of high carbon steel (from the same swordsmith, actually!) and the Katana was significantly lighter. If I was like you, and I was looking for reasons to claim its superiority, I can think of a few that could be used: 1. Lighter 2. Better Balanced 3. More flexible 4. Single edged (means the whole blade can be keenly sharp without accident)
and if you think taking longer to construct is a serious disadvantage for a weapon, then you are clearly looking for disadvantages because this really doesn't matter. So what if it takes longer to make? and when you tell me that a short horse bow was more powerful than a longbow, I laugh. As for the swords you are simply biased. All the sword qualities you named are matters of personal preference.
@MrGarrett1911 That is not entirely true. They served many functions depending on the time period,and political climate. Some Daimyo had ninja employed as spies and assassins some had then in command positions within their troop's ranks. Many were simply freedom fighters waging a guerilla war against oppressive local lords. Either way it was less of a "martial art" and more of an occupation or position.
HYBRIDCOMBATIVES 1 week ago
ninjas were not warriors fighters or martial artists if you check out your history they were assassins, in kill and out.
MrGarrett1911 4 weeks ago
French ninjas = parkour
pambuena 1 month ago
Well, I can only say I was in a three day training event with Pedro (one of the 4 kings in the yellow shirts), and he's awesome.
bmntech 1 month ago
and for the record, this is WAY off-topic from the original discussion. We were originally discussing Ninja, and then you start talking about how you think ancient Japanese warriors were inferior all-around. Unless you are in possession of a time machine, you cannot claim to know that for a fact. I'm only saying they weren't necessarily inferior, and I have yet to hear a good argument that they were. The fact that you would turn the discussion in this direction shows me you are a racist.
12hiddendragons 1 month ago
to be honest, I think that you are an extremely bigoted individual who is looking for any excuse to say that warriors from your culture are inherently better than those of another culture. I bet you watch "Deadliest Warrior" often because your logic is as flawed as theirs usually is. You point out that the Japanese have borrowed western ideas, and that's true, but westerners have a long history of borrowing from the east, too. Marco Polo, for instance? The world does not revolve around Europe.
12hiddendragons 1 month ago
and when the Japanese started using thicker steel plate, it wasn't because westerners introduced it. It was because guns had become much more common (westerners did introduce that) and they were adapting with thicker armor. They took ideas from western armor, but adapted them in their own way. Much the same thing happened in Europe. As firearm technology advanced, armor became thicker and thicker and eventually too heavy to be worth wearing, so they discarded it.
12hiddendragons 1 month ago
A single edge allows you to use your other hand for added leverage without having to risk cutting your hand or having to keep one part of your sword duller. I might also mention that the Katana works equally well as a one-handed or two-handed weapon (look at musashi if you don't believe me.) Also, a curve in a sword can be an advantage if you know how to use it properly to snake around someone's guard. Also, the Katana was specially suited for quickdraw attacks, which can also be a big edge.
12hiddendragons 1 month ago
I personally think that you don't know anything about swords except what you have read in books. I have practiced with both a Katana and a Broadsword made of high carbon steel (from the same swordsmith, actually!) and the Katana was significantly lighter. If I was like you, and I was looking for reasons to claim its superiority, I can think of a few that could be used: 1. Lighter 2. Better Balanced 3. More flexible 4. Single edged (means the whole blade can be keenly sharp without accident)
12hiddendragons 1 month ago
and if you think taking longer to construct is a serious disadvantage for a weapon, then you are clearly looking for disadvantages because this really doesn't matter. So what if it takes longer to make? and when you tell me that a short horse bow was more powerful than a longbow, I laugh. As for the swords you are simply biased. All the sword qualities you named are matters of personal preference.
12hiddendragons 1 month ago