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How to Pwn a YEC Irreducible Complexity Part 1

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This is the first installment of pwning irreducible complexity. In this video the team of experts at the JaguarJ0nes channel document how Behe unwittingly introduces his organ of copulation and urinary excretion into his own mouse trap and pwnership of the YEC is taken with the greatest of expedience.

For more information, Please visit: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/behe.html

My demotivational posters: http://www.flickr.com/photos/36678739@N04/

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  • @ghostgate82 "I hate listening to smug assholes"

    You must HATE going to church then!

  • Clearly irreducible complexity can evolve and has many times (every species extant today is irreducibly complex). Nonetheless, Behe's response to the mousetrap on the table is fair. The table still does serve as the base, and the pieces still were designed for each other.

    The proper way to argue against "irreducible complexity" as the YEC's think of it, isn't to say that irreducible complexity doesn't exist, but instead to show that it can (and must) evolve.

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  • @Hopefulfilment Sorry 4 the delay but u're right. Even an immobile mousetrap could catch some mice. BUT, I have to agree with the other comments that the desk or table still act as a base In the same way, legs are legs, no matter how inefficient and even bad design would still be design. The best way to attack YECs and IDers is to ask them for examples of putative ID and prove them wrong. it's a hard slog but it has to be done.

  • ACHZDCK USES WAY MUCH CAPS LOCK !

  • @achzdck Energy = Matter X a really big number. Matter is created and destroyed all the time. The sun turns 4 million tons of matter into energy every second.

  • Not to defend YEC, but it does looks like that mousetrap wasn't rebuilt without it's base, it was just rebuilt using a section of table as the base. The spring and other materials appear to have been attached to the table to use as a base.

    The YEC was still wrong and ridiculous with a silly argument that doesn't work, but in this particular case the mousetrap isn't functioning without a base, it's functioning with a different but functionally equivalent base.

  • @achzdck Untrue, quantum physicists have observed subatomic particles appearing seemingly from nowhere in a vacuum.

  • hahahaha

  • LMAO best ending ever

  • Working through this and thank you but there is a flaw in the mousetrap. I get what you're trying to say but at 5:27 you just created another base, rather than remove it. There's other arguments that would work better.

  • @Hopefulfilment :  agree. i take ur point.

  • @Hopefulfilment quite even

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