An Important Response and Clarification (part 2/3)
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I don't remember, I was nine. I don't even think I paid attention.
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What were the questions you were asked in the interview before your baptism?
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There was a conviction, you are right. That conviction was that I had been told that if I prayed, I would receive a witness of the truth. Since I knew I needed to be in the church, I wanted to gain a testimony of its truthfulness. So I prayed, and prayed, and prayed, and prayed. After three and a half years of praying and not receiving any witness, I decided to give up.
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I think you're amongst the best of people who's been deceived. The little I know about you is what makes it hard for me to believe your claim of never having had a witness. You can believe that it's my own personal vested interest, that's your prerogative, but I don't think I was wrong about your previous demonstrations of conviction. Take that as you will.
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One could say the same for you as your options have much in common with what you put forward as being my options, your position presently has you as vested in your claims as I am in mine.
I happen to believe that there was a conviction motivating what I've seen in you. I'm sorry if my unwillingness to deny what I saw in your conviction offends you.
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No. I don't forgive you.
You want to believe that because of the claims of the church that everyone who asks in faith will receive an answer. And because that was not the case for me, that means either 1. the church is not true 2. the church might be right for some, but not be, and 3. I must be lying or mistaken. You refuse to accept any other explanation than 3 because it would interfere with your personal beliefs.
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"I have never received revelation that the mormon church is true"
I hope you'll forgive me for not believing that.
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between you and I is that you believe your truth is the ultimate truth and everyone will be punished, or receive a lesser glory for not believing what you do, and I do not believe that. I believe that everyone who follows the dictates of their own conscience, and adheres to what they believe is right will all be rewarded equally.
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and finally, you say that homosexuality cannot lead to eternal happiness because it is not i line with God's plan, you are implying that that really is God's plan to begin with. It's not. It's what you believe, which is fine for you. But I don't believe it's true. I am not trying to search for the truth that lines up with what I already believe, I believe that it is truth simply because I believe it's truth. I believe in my truth the same way that you believe in yours. The only difference
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rather than try to live a lie by following the standards set out by the church and be miserable.
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rd1999 3 years ago 3