Referendum Meeting (1/12) - K Sinnott MEP; S Ellul-Bonici

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHGKkO0A6Eo
Referendum in Ireland on the Treaty of Lisbon (expected 12 June 2008).

Meeting for activists, Dublin, Ireland - 12 January 2008.

Organized and presented on behalf of the Independence/Democracy (IND/DEM) Group in the European Parliament by

- Kathy Sinnott MEP (Ireland)
- Sharon Ellul-Bonici (Malta)

Speakers:

- Jens-Peter Bonde MEP (Denmark), Co-President, IND/DEM Group
- Christophe Beaudouin (France) Legal expert
- Anthony Coughlan (Ireland) National Platform
- Patricia McKenna (Ireland) Green Party

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Intro music from Focus - Hamburger Concerto - Delitae Musicae
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Note on EU Constitution and Lisbon Treaty:

The people of France and the Netherlands rejected the proposed EU constitution in the 2005 referendums. After this, 5 countries cancelled a promised referendum and the EU Constitution was re-written as an "amending treaty" or a "reform treaty" and named "Treaty of Lisbon".

On the basis of this deceit, they claimed that no referendums on the Lisbon Treaty are necessary. Ireland is constitutionally required to hold a referendum, expected 12 June. All other countries are ratifying the disguised EU Constitution without asking the people.

The Lisbon Treaty establishes a new "European Union" with joint citizenship - an EU "federal" State that is technically and politically empowered to further centralize power in Brussels; a European State comprising of 27 nation-states ruled by a triumvirate of European institutions led by the unelected EU Commission, which serves as the governing body of the Union.

With co-decision powers to block legislation, but never to initiate it, the European Council comprises of representatives of the governments of member states. This ineffectual co-decision process is shared with the European Parliament, which is the only directly elected institution and the only channel for European citizens to possibly reverse the totalitarian trend and preserve freedom and democracy.

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[Greg260146]

europarl I appreciate the corrupt EU like Humpty Dumpty it uses words to mean what it wishes them to mean under different contexts. That you emulate them gives little confidence in IDG. However the IDG web site statement is 'Greater subsidiarity TO the EU' also Derek Clark's undertaking to work WITH the EU to improve & strengthen its committees - which part are you struggling to understand. I suggest in view of the EU's obvious attempted linguistic corruption JUST SAY NO. Consider 'Competence'

[europarl]

Yes eurospeak is a bummer. You mean subsidising.

"Just Say No" is what we're saying - it seems you'd like to say more though ;)

[Greg260146]

europarl Indeed EUroSpeak is dishonest & for you to use it ill becomes you.

The word I used was SUBSIDIARITY and for you portray that in a manner that suits you as subsidy is to dishonestly abuse the language. Just as the EU with its dishonest usage of 'Competence' to give the word a meaning it does NOT have in many if not most of the EU's corrupt documentation. I take it you have read the IDG's betrayal of the electorate.

[europarl]

you've gone off course Greg. Subsidiarity is an old word - they just revived it - you have to speak their language in order to make an EU argument - we should use 'Federal' instead of "Community", of course, and Power instead of "competence" - but not always, otherwise we would not be understood by those who only know the eurospeak terms.

[No1GorgeousLady]

Please vote NO to the Lisbon Constitution. It is not good enough to have a European Constitution that reads like a phone book and that only the Irish citizens get to vote on. Democracy is in the hands of the Irish people. Voting no to Lisbon will not change the economic situation for the better or the worse. This is a tactic being used by the Government and certain media with vested interests in a yes vote to distract from the actual content of the Treaty. Please do not be fooled, vote NO.

[Greg260146]

Thank YOU very much for delivering a NO VOTE to subsuming Ireland yet further in The Evil Union with its disregard for freedom and the peoples of EUrope. History will show how courageouse it was of the people of Ireland to display with such certainty their self confidence that they can stand on their own feet without the nanny state of the EU with its bullying, threatening and dishonesty It has been a great eye opener to many just how vicious & corrupt those who wanted the EU were prepared to be

[mamaligas]

WE NEED TO ACT AS ONE ! for that we need this treaty/agreement,...otherwise let`s have another World War..

[murphyxxm]

The only place for a politician like Kathy Sinnott is Dáil Éireann. Maybe the Dáil should be made the only place in Europe where Irish Politicians should be kept? Mug Savages!

[olivedrag]

McCreevy is now himself the laughing stock of Europe. He's quoted all the time on German forums for his statement that he wouldn't recommend anyone to 'spend a weekend reading the treaty and he hadn't read it himself.'People just shake their heads about this arrogance. Perhaps he was just dumb to admit it - most other politicians keep quiet about it even though they voted 'yes'!

[hydra8888]

Bill of fundamental rights - means that EU tells Ireland how many immigrants both legal & illegal Ireland must take in. That these people can be hired for a minimum wage which means Ireland must compete for these wages or lose their jobs.

Ireland do the Europeans a favor & vote No

"Not a superstate that is dilluting the national identity." - Barroso -President of the European Commission

[Greg260146]

Do remember when you cast your vote if you are one of the very few who are privileged with ANY meaningful democratic say out of some 500Million that those who advocate the EU are all too often the parasitic politicians, their salaried advisors (brain cells) staff, apparatchiks, lobbyists, consultants, agents & assistants all with their snouts firmly in the troughs on the gravy train fighting like rats in a corner to maintain this pampered role as salesmen & women in support of Evil - JUST SAY NO

[Greg260146]

europarl He who controls the language controls the argument - I am not willing to concede to the dishonesty of Humpty Dumpty - it is time he was kicked off the wall.

There is absolutely no doubt the statement 'Greater Subsidiarity To' means precisely that and to pretend otherwise is dishonest and a corruption. If Humpty Dumpty MEANS 'Federal' & 'Power' respectively to 'Community' & 'Competence' the documents as signed are invalid and null and Void as signed. Language is a very accurate tool.