Re: Hipster Rap

The more things change...the more they remain the same. KIDS need to do their homework. If they want to make hiphop ala' 88'...it would help if they familiarized themselves with the sounds, production techniques, etc of 88'. These kiddie groups just ain't cutting the mustard...and as an elder hiphopper...if I have to think about whether these groups are just making tongue-in-cheek, irony filled rap odes to days past or honest attempts at recapturing said era...then it's a very good possibility that it's the former and not the latter. Allow me to illustrate my point...

*Made in 88'*
MC Shan - I Pioneered This
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMv-2THE27k

*Made in 04* (but sounds like 88)
Edan - Emcees Smoke Crack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD-8B__8kCM

*New Ish*
Kidz In The Hall-Driving Down The Block
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsYL6MGqDss

Big difference...

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[battleriflebeats]

stop trying to act like you're some old sage of musician in the hip hop world. hip hop is one of the newest genres around and its ass holes like you that failed in their careers so you're trying to find reasons to put the new generation down. appreciate music for being good music, because honestly nothing else matters.

[CmplxBsc]

@battleriflebeats

This really doesn't merit much of a response. Failed career ? You make no sense.

[teddybruscie]

@CmplxBsc Yea exactly. But now a days in order to get put on you need to put in work. And this happened when they were still puting in work. Creating a buzz and their own style. Finding themselves as artists. No on is perfect at the beginning stages of their career. Leason learned.

Im not saying you have to listen to them. But you cant judge someones entire career based on something that happened years ago when someone was young. So before you write them off, give their new shit a listen.

[CmplxBsc]

@teddybruscie

Like I said, back then we didn't try to come out before we were ready. You had to get PUT ON.

You're simply not knowing newjack.

Holler back.

[teddybruscie]

@CmplxBsc Bullshit. Everybody does something in their Youth they regret. Even if aint in HipHop just in life.

Point is. Your saying their whack because of something that happened a long time ago. You being 30, Im pretty sure you at 18 or 19 are completely different from you at 22 to 25. You grew up. What your saying is make one mistake and your whack for the rest of your life. Thats just wrong. Everybody has made mistakes, especially in their youth.

Stop being so bitter. Forgive and Forget

[CmplxBsc]

@teddybruscie

LOL...dude...I'm not apologetic about none of this shit. If you're wack...you're wack...straight up. I never came in this on some bullshit. You weren't around in the era I came up in...so you'll never know. Being over 30 has EVERYTHING to do with it. See, when you make statements like that...that's how I know I'm dealing with a newjack.

I didn't commit hiphop sins that made me want to slap myself later in life. That's this new generation...lol.

[teddybruscie]

@CmplxBsc Yea I know. Remember we have to look back. So I've done my research on how things were done. "Biting" used to be a criminal.

Being 30 has little to do with anything. Sure we have to go back. But like I said. They learned their leason as artists. Just as you have. Im sure you took to things that if you could you would go back in time to slap yourself from doing it. They were young. They are in their mid 20's now and are successful artists. They are grown ass men now. Not Hipsters.

[CmplxBsc]

@teddybruscie

I'm over 30. I don't have a soft spot for young cats who came into this on some bullshit. The whole "gimmicks in hiphop" thing is some ol' new paradigm shit. This is something ya'll (new generation) got crackin' because in all seriousness...back in the day cats like that used to get beat up....lol.

I know it's kinda hard to accept...but hiphop actually USED TO BE THAT REAL.

[teddybruscie]

@CmplxBsc Exactly. But your saying they are automatically whack because they tried out one gimmick at the beginning of their career. As if once you do one gimmick, your automatically whack for the rest of your career.

It happened. They grew up. They totally forgot about it. Im sure we all forgot. If you listen to their music now there is no trace of anything "Hipster". Like I said they worked to become well rounded artists.

This video does show how gimmicks are not worth participating in.

[CmplxBsc]

@teddybruscie

I mean...so did you actually listen to ANYTHING I said in this video ? Everything you're saying is exactly how I said the shit was going to play out.

Gimmicks have a tendency to play out quickly in HipHop (any real head would know this)...and choosing a "Hipster" gimmick REALLY wasn't a good look...lol.