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Transcript of Boyd K. Packer's remarks:
We raise an alarm and warn members of the Church to wake up and understand what's going on. Parents be alert, ever watchful, that this wickedness might threaten your family circle. We teach a standard of moral conduct that will protect us from Satan's many substitutes and counterfeits for marriage. We must understand that any persuasion to enter into any relationship that is not in harmony with the principles of the Gospel must be wrong. In the Book of Mormon we learn that "wickedness never was happiness." Some suppose that they were "pre-set" and cannot overcome what they feel are inborn tendencies toward the impure and the unnatural. Not so. Why would our Heavenly Father do that to anyone? Remember, He is our Father.
Paul promised, "God will not suffer you to be tempted above what ye are able, but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." You can if you will, break the habits and conquer the addiction and come away from that which is not worthy of any member of the church. As Alma cautioned, we must "watch and pray continually." Isaiah warned, "Wo unto them that call evil good and good evil, that put darkness for light and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."
Years ago, I visited a school in Albuquerque. The teacher told me about a youngster who brought a kitten to class. As you can imagine, that disrupted everything. She had him hold up the kitten in front of the children. It went well until one of the children asked, "Is it a boy kitty or a girl kitty?" Not wanting to get into that lesson, the teacher said, "It doesn't matter, it's just a kitty." But they persisted. Finally one boy raised his hand and said, "I know how you can tell." Resigned to face it, the teacher said, "How can you tell?" And the student answered, "You can vote on it."
You may laugh at the story. But, if we're not alert, there are those today who not only tolerate but advocate voting to change lives that would legalize immorality. As if a vote would somehow alter the designs of God's laws of nature. A law against nature would be impossible to enforce. For instance, what good would the law against - a vote against - the law of gravity do?
There are both moral and physical laws irrevocably decreed in Heaven before the foundation of the world that cannot be changed. History demonstrates over and over again that moral standards cannot be changed by battle and cannot be changed by ballot. To legalize that which is basically wrong or evil will not prevent the pain and penalties that will follow as surely as night follows day.
Regardless of the opposition, we are determined to stay on course. We will hold to the principles and laws and ordinances of the Gospel. If they are misunderstood, either innocently or willfully, so be it. We cannot change, we will not change the moral standards. We quickly lose our way when we disobey the laws of God.
What a moron
Rush2112CA 1 week ago
@mamabek81 Well, then you have to ask yourself the big question, "Is Boyd K. Packer an Apostle of the Lord Jesus Christ?" I am pretty sure you know what comes after that.
steeltalon2011 1 month ago
@steeltalon2011 He'd understand if I did.
mamabek81 1 month ago
@mamabek81 Hopefully, you haven' t expressed this to your bishop.
steeltalon2011 1 month ago
@steeltalon2011 That's what I have concluded. I was watching a documentary called "For the Bible Tells Me So," and was hit with the Spirit telling me to let go of my former ideas. I understand why you'd caution me to keep things to myself. I am not out to hurt anyone or "convert" my gospel principles class to my point of view. We all have our journey and I respect yours and mine. ...We are a LIVING church, we have changed and we will change in the future according to revelation.
mamabek81 1 month ago
@mamabek81 Individual revelation? Well, I wouldn't communicate my thoughts in church or a class if I were you. You have concluded that homosexuality is not wrong?
steeltalon2011 2 months ago
@steeltalon2011 hope you can respect my need to maintain my integrity by following the individual revelation I have received. Much love in the faith.
mamabek81 2 months ago
@steeltalon2011 preface that I am an active mormon, stay-at-home mom, return missionary, former MTC teacher, current Gospel Principles teacher at our local congregation. I'm the type of person you sit next to every Sunday. And through prayer and hearing the cries of my homosexual brothers and sisters, I feel I've received a witness that it's not wrong and that love is the higher law. I respect if you disagree, especially since you've got the talk right here to back you up. But I
mamabek81 2 months ago
@steeltalon2011 Secondly, because if we were to view our world from that viewpoint of Heavenly Father wouldn't do ______ to his children b/c He loves us, we will become very disallusioned with the idea of God. My child has autism. She didn't choose it. She was born with it. Why would a loving Heavenly Father do that to anyone? Luckily I don't see it that way and am able to maintain faith. Thirdly, it saddens me b/c I genuinely don't believe homosexuality to be a sin. I should
mamabek81 2 months ago
@steeltalon2011 Thank you for asking. I'm going to answer assuming that you're genuinely interested in hearing my opinion and not in bashing me for having a different viewpoint. I feel sad especially when he states that homosexuality could not be an in-born tendency because a loving Heavenly Father would not do that to anyone. Firstly because in general the General Authorities are saying that we don't know what the reasons are behind homosexuality (i.e. nature or nurture or both)
mamabek81 2 months ago