Collapse of the Titans

Peak Moment 202: Learn from the Soviets - personal relationships are the best currency, says Russian-born Dmitry Orlov, the author of "Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Example and American Prospects." The American empire is following the USSR into collapse, he asserts, with financial collapse happening first, followed by commercial and then political collapse. Dmitry, an America resident for several decades, suggests lowering our needs and expectations and replacing money transactions with barter and exchanges. [http://www.cluborlov.com]

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[ryanbrooks11388]

where is this interview being done? It looks very relaxing and small; my kind of place

[peakmoment]

@ryanbrooks11388, this interview was actually taped on the Nevada County fairgrounds in Grass Valley. We try to make shows relaxing and intimate. ...I agree with your response to shufang100 about collapse coming more quickly than we expect. Last weekend we taped Chris Martenson, who shows we're experiencing an ever-accelerating pace due to exponential rises in population, exponential use of resources, exponential debt levels. Unprecedented in human history.

[MrHeggna]

It is not possible to "lower our expectations." Our expectation, at the very least, is to survive. In order for us to survive, what little is left of nature will HAVE to be killed off. And then man too will die away. In order for the planet to survive, and a few of us along with it, our expectations will have to be set at less than what it takes to survive. Therefore, it is not possible to lower expectations. Therefore, the brutish future we all dread will be upon us.

[peakmoment]

@MrHeggna, wow that's quite fatalistic! You're saying humans won't change until it's too late. I hope a lot of people wake up and do what they can to stop the destruction of the planet. And begin to do the reforesting and local-scale perennial polycultures food production, so there's potential for some humans and non-humans to continue.

[lordhasen]

I really dont like this "collaps is unstoppable" . Collaps is not like a physical law .

[peakmoment]

@lordhasen. Collapse may not itself be a physical law, but the conditions bringing on collapse DO follow physical laws. Overpopulation and overconsumption of non-renewable resources...means we'll have less (and more expensive) oil, water. Every civilization has come done because they demanded more resources than their environment could provide. Pretty close to a physical law...

[healingdaily]

"people don't believe people who just talk". Very good. I am living rent-free in a solar powered van.

[skyybutter1]

what a wonderful video. The key thought for me from the video is to lower our standards. That is not what our society wants to hear but there is nothing wrong with not wanting as much. I left a job in 2010 and am making half the money and doing just fine. I have never owned a home and now I rent a room from a friend. I let my car go back and paid a family member $100 for a truck. There are tons of options if people would only be willing to explore them.

[tgvas]

RUSSIA WAS SYMETRICAL TO THE USA?

WHat the hell is this guy been smoking?

RUSSIA has been in a state of Chaos since Lennin and before, BIG BROTHER, OPPRESSION, STARVATION, JEWS running from RUSSIA in the 1970s, PRISON for speaking out, constant depression!

THIS GUY IS a disimformationist!

Reasons for the USA going into depression are similiar, but dont dare tell me that RUSSIA was sumetrical to the USA! That's just plain idiotic.

[ryanbrooks11388]

@peakmoment Thank You. I have watched a few of your episodes and I have enjoyed each one of them very much......keep up the good work and I will continue to watch : )

[ryanbrooks11388]

I hope shufang100 is seriously joking when he/she says that....If not, you sir/ma'am have no idea how quick this is going to hit you (all of us). Do not expect a slow and steady decline into collapse. It will not end that way. Just think about the exponential growth function and how humans are not decreasing their birthrates at a significant enough pace and how we are not decreasing our "expected" rate of consumption. people are not educated enough. No, it will come very quick....prepare please

[Axbent]

@shufang100 Hes been saying that for years though. Not that I disbelieve him in general, but don't panic too much, just enuff to be awake.

[Axbent]

@1977Melville Not as librarians.

[Axbent]

@lordhasen Google "Jared Diamond" and Collapse

[1977Melville]

Any use for out of work librarians in Orlov's post-collapse era?