This is an excerpt from the Life Report podcast, Episode 31. We're concluding a series responding to Obama and McCain's comments on abortion and stem cell research at Saddleback Church.
Stream or download the full episode at http://ProLifePodcast.net.
On March 9, 2009, mr oblama lifted the ban of Federal Funds for Embryonic Stem Cell Research. Yet, on that same day, he placed a ban of Federal Funds for Adult Stem Cell Research. He is talking out of both sides of his mouth..... In short, he's a LIAR!
Unklebillybob 2 years ago
I can personally attest to Liz being OK! ;) I think you are responding to my positive comment after Obama's statement. Let me clarify; Obama stated "IF adult stem cells produce cures... we should avoid any weighty moral issues..." And I agree: but I also know, like you were saying , that adult cells already have cures so by Obama's own reasoning we should stop using ESCR. Which, of course, is not in line with his recent action lifting the ESCR ban.
Good final question! Why?
cohostliz 3 years ago
Is "Liz" OK? ESCR has been going on for decades. In the eleven years since the first ESC was isolated, there has been no successful medical procedures. Thus, your statement of "about a "...2nd wrong..." has a fatal flaw. These cells are not life giving to anyone but their host. Finally, We currently have Stem Cell Research that is successful today, and helping people.
Here is my question to all of you, Why put money into failed research when we have research that is successful, today?
Unklebillybob 3 years ago
Recognize, don't destroy God's gift of Embryonic Stem Cells!
Are you proud of extending suffering of others? Will God reward your efforts to interfer with his plan to save us?
If you think Fertility Treatment is wrong, wouldn't it be a 2nd wrong to throw the life giving cells away?
You are either a liar or irresponsibily ignorant to say "Aborted baby parts" are used!
Are you comfortable pretending you are God's hand used to cause death?
My children asked me why you want me dead!
AlaskanElizabeth 3 years ago
Adult stem cells have already cured AIDS.
Embryonic stem cells can be used to cure much more because there are so many being produced to help the fetus grow inside the womb.
armadilloHD 3 years ago
Think of it this way, a mother aborts a child because she cannot support it, when that embryo's stem cells are donated to save a child with a very horrible illness it's almost like they live on with that child. Isn't that better then sending their body to the dump?
armadilloHD 3 years ago
Do you mean to say "uncalled for"?
"I believe Life starts at birth."
So you would say that the fetus before birth is not living?
Would it be fair to say that you believe that a fetus with a beating heart is considered non-living matter?
What about birth gives life? Is it the firth breath that makes someone alive?
So I take it support support the sale of unborn baby parts even if you dont think it is a valid comparison?
CIDaily 3 years ago
What I meant to say is that was on called for it was not right what Hitler did but we cant deny the knowledge gained from that treble experience. I believe Life starts at birth. And youre being a bit two extreme by saying that stem cell research is the outlet sale of bay be body parts, when in fact millions of women do abortions everyday and dose fetuses get toss away to the garbage and in some cases this fetuses get used for research bye the pharmasudical companies and now one says anything
Kfirce 3 years ago
Have we EVER found any cures from an embryo in all our study and billions spent?
How is this apples to pairs?
Oh and what does "on cold for" me? Doesn't make sense to me.
What is your definition for "life"?
Lastly, I would love to hear what your thoughts are about selling and harvesting of aborted baby parts?
CIDaily 3 years ago
To answer your question first you are comparing apples to pairs. What Hitler did is on cold for and yes thanks to that, we know more about the human body that we would ever know, was the price to high yes. I say it was but in this case I personally believe that on embryo is not a life and this can be proven scientifically so if your saying that I would sacrifice a few embryos for the cure of millions of people the answer is yes I would proudly would do it
Kfirce 3 years ago