"I trust my ISP a whole helluva lot more than I trust government."
With net neutrality, you don't have to trust either. The law says that ISPs can't discriminate between websites, it doesn't give the government the power to do it. The law against rape does not mean that the government is given the right to rape you.
@particle409 So what keeps me doing it then, why do you put all your faith in one person or party or business. I don't think you know how information travels over the lines of the internet. The servers are what send the information over these lines, small frequency bursts that your computer deciphers and turns into an image on your screen.
Your Fear is what makes you think the Government needs to take care of it's citizens as if We The People are too ignorant to do it ourselves together.
@Budvb We already have net neutrality. That's what forces ISP's to provide all internet traffic to you. If we drop it, then the ISP's will only provide what they want. In other words, if you're ISP hasn't made an expensive deal with YouTube, you won't have access to it. If you're a small business that relies on a website to do business, too bad. You'll have to pay every ISP a ton of money if you want customers to be able to view your site.
Lets put it this way, I trust my ISP a whole helluva lot more than I trust government. Ask the Australians how their net neutrality is working for them, since they gave the government control.
@TheEmptyHunter Hahaha, what a fantasy world you live in. You seriously believe that the minute one ISP picked a fight with Google, others wouldn't rush to profit by allying themselves with the big evil corporation Google? :)
@Thayer79 You were the one that was talking about "at our expense". I pointed out that this is only true if you're talking about tax dollars - but as you yourself insist, that's not what you're talking about.
I'm also not sure how you justify this so-called consumer protection. Does this apply to newspapers, too? Should they have to treat all articles the same? And if not, why the double standard?
Net Neutrality is a joke and a not needed law, it's more about allowing the control of the internet to the largest corporations. It opens the doorway for these Big companies to destroy the competition. Government should just leave it alone, before they break the internet next like they do everything else they have great Ideas about. It's all about Power and GReed to them as it always has been.
@MauryCoDem Yes. And maybe you could make the argument that they make enough profit to that, but I don't think they are making enough to help with the kind of R&D needed for best lines and cables they could have. I personally am excited to see how the internet could become better. How fast it can become, but they MAY be doing just enough to keep up with user growth. I'm not sure. I just want to know that they have all the resources available to make it better and don't hurt us in the process.
@fab006 I'm not sure what you're asking, because I didn't say anything about tax dollars. If you read my other comments that was my point. The net neutrality legislation in place forces the companies to treat ALL data the same. That unfortunately means they can't offer better service for higher prices as well. Meaning a big corporation can't pay higher prices for higher speeds, as well as not slowing other sites and services down. The latter is consumer protection, the former blanket regulation.
@fab006 It would be a pretty easy fight for them to win seeing as the ISPs control the network that brings Google their customers. Google would be done if the ISPs decided to flick the switch blocking traffic to Google.
@jjrglobal
"I trust my ISP a whole helluva lot more than I trust government."
With net neutrality, you don't have to trust either. The law says that ISPs can't discriminate between websites, it doesn't give the government the power to do it. The law against rape does not mean that the government is given the right to rape you.
newdimensionfilms 3 months ago
@particle409 So what keeps me doing it then, why do you put all your faith in one person or party or business. I don't think you know how information travels over the lines of the internet. The servers are what send the information over these lines, small frequency bursts that your computer deciphers and turns into an image on your screen.
Your Fear is what makes you think the Government needs to take care of it's citizens as if We The People are too ignorant to do it ourselves together.
Budvb 3 months ago
@Budvb We already have net neutrality. That's what forces ISP's to provide all internet traffic to you. If we drop it, then the ISP's will only provide what they want. In other words, if you're ISP hasn't made an expensive deal with YouTube, you won't have access to it. If you're a small business that relies on a website to do business, too bad. You'll have to pay every ISP a ton of money if you want customers to be able to view your site.
particle409 3 months ago
@newdimensionfilms
Lets put it this way, I trust my ISP a whole helluva lot more than I trust government. Ask the Australians how their net neutrality is working for them, since they gave the government control.
jjrglobal 3 months ago
@TheEmptyHunter Hahaha, what a fantasy world you live in. You seriously believe that the minute one ISP picked a fight with Google, others wouldn't rush to profit by allying themselves with the big evil corporation Google? :)
fab006 3 months ago
@Thayer79 You were the one that was talking about "at our expense". I pointed out that this is only true if you're talking about tax dollars - but as you yourself insist, that's not what you're talking about.
I'm also not sure how you justify this so-called consumer protection. Does this apply to newspapers, too? Should they have to treat all articles the same? And if not, why the double standard?
fab006 3 months ago
Net Neutrality is a joke and a not needed law, it's more about allowing the control of the internet to the largest corporations. It opens the doorway for these Big companies to destroy the competition. Government should just leave it alone, before they break the internet next like they do everything else they have great Ideas about. It's all about Power and GReed to them as it always has been.
Budvb 3 months ago
@MauryCoDem Yes. And maybe you could make the argument that they make enough profit to that, but I don't think they are making enough to help with the kind of R&D needed for best lines and cables they could have. I personally am excited to see how the internet could become better. How fast it can become, but they MAY be doing just enough to keep up with user growth. I'm not sure. I just want to know that they have all the resources available to make it better and don't hurt us in the process.
Thayer79 3 months ago
@fab006 I'm not sure what you're asking, because I didn't say anything about tax dollars. If you read my other comments that was my point. The net neutrality legislation in place forces the companies to treat ALL data the same. That unfortunately means they can't offer better service for higher prices as well. Meaning a big corporation can't pay higher prices for higher speeds, as well as not slowing other sites and services down. The latter is consumer protection, the former blanket regulation.
Thayer79 3 months ago
@fab006 It would be a pretty easy fight for them to win seeing as the ISPs control the network that brings Google their customers. Google would be done if the ISPs decided to flick the switch blocking traffic to Google.
TheEmptyHunter 3 months ago