The Truth about Confession

We do confess to God, the way Jesus instructed us to do so.

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[baldonebear]

@123WalshJack

Part 6

Nor does it consist in this, that he should again falsely imagine, as being above this, a Pleroma at one time supposed to contain thirty, and at another time an innumerable tribe of Aeons, as these teachers who are destitute of truly divine wisdom maintain; while the Catholic Church possesses one and the same faith throughout the whole world, as we have already said."

Irenaeus, AD 180

3 to start.

[baldonebear]

@123WalshJack

Part 5

"[A]ll the people wondered that there should be such a difference between the unbelievers and the elect, of whom this most admirable Polycarp was one, having in our own times been an apostolic and prophetic teacher, and bishop of the Catholic Church which is in Smyrna. For every word that went out of his mouth either has been or shall yet be accomplished."

Martyrdom of Polycarp, AD 155

[baldonebear]

@123WalshJack

Part 4

"Let that Eucharist be held valid which is offered by the bishop or by the one to whom the bishop has committed this charge. Wherever the bishop appears, there let the people be; as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."

Ignatius of Antioch, AD 107

[baldonebear]

@123WalshJack

Part 3

I ask you to comment on the verses I posted: Rev 5:8 and 8:3-4

Btw, lame?

The adjective "Roman" was not used until after the 11th century.

The term Catholic was used in the ECF texts to speak of the Church.

Let's look at a few, shall we? We can exhaust them, and I would ask that you tell me if what they say reflects your Protestant community?

[baldonebear]

@123WalshJack

Part 2

You have very little dialogue with me. Please do not attempt to tell me how I do anything.

I research all aspects before I draw a conclusion. I do not find a lone quote on the internet and simply use it in an attempt to prove a point.

I was a a bible college instructor and Protestant pastor. I have spent many years in school and research.

Honestly, we have not had a deep dialogue on any particular doctrinal issue 

[baldonebear]

@123WalshJack

Part 1

I have not taken JND Kelley out of context. I know he was not Catholic, but I also know exactly what he stated in several of his texts.

I know how to research. I used to teach in a bible college, so I am not a novice.

Augustine was Catholic. I find it hard to believe that you have read his texts with your comment.

Btw, my intention was not to refute you. What I posted is factual, and ad hominem is an issue for many.

[123WalshJack]

@baldonebear YOu are not refuting anything that I have said. YOu are simply telling me what you believe. I find it hilairious when catholics use JND Kelly and take him so far out of context, just like they try and do the same with Augustine.

[123WalshJack]

@baldonebear Gosh this is one of the lamest arguments that I have ever encountered. So are you saying that if the roman catholic church uses the word "hammer" and the church fathers did too, that means that they are roman catholic? How absurd your logic or lack thereof.

[123WalshJack]

@baldonebear No I am not just like I am not sure that there are not Martians that live in New York, but that is not how you conduct logic. You look for evidence then draw you conclusions. In the case of the saints, there is nothing in the bible that states that the saints hear your prayers, just like there is nothing in the paper about Martians living in New York.

[baldonebear]

@123WalshJack

Part 4

Are you sure that saints in heaven can not hear us? Are you sure they are not aware of our prayers?

Rev 5:8, 8:3-4