Ford-Carter debate excerpt

loool such a dumb president...

I've read where Ford at this point just really didn't care and didn't want to be President anymore. Did want to be President from the start and was ready to leave. He didn't do much campaining as well.

well it's like Obama...all pre-memorized and prepared information....off the cuff Obama exhibits average conversed intelligence, and rhetoric....and he went to Harvard!!!!, or that is, he "got into" Harvard! Today I think that's an appropriate distinction to recognize.

@DIZZZZY1975  well no, its like all candidates, do you think mccain or bush refrained from memorization? nobody goes to harvard under affirmative action, if thats what you mean by "he got into harvard." you must be assuming things? or maybe thats what you seen on Fox news, either way, seems like mr ford was living a fantasy world like all other republicans, all greedy corporate thugs lookin out for the rich. where was this guy when the mills started closing? check out the documentary outfoxed.

The single most interesting thing about this clip to me is the correct invocation of the countries relevant to the point at issue--Romania, Yugoslavia, Poland. How intellectual standards have dropped among politicians, and especially Republicans! Even McCain, who sold himself last year as a geopolitical foreign affairs expert, mixed up the Sunnis and the Shias in recorded clips. That's like mixing up the Catholics and Protestants in Ireland. Maybe Palin will know better ;)

He was completely wrong about Poland. This debate took place in 76 and in 1981 martial law was declared in Poland. The soviets were still completely dominating Poland at that time. Gorbachev didn't come until 1985.

Funny thing about the USSR: it could have kept the Empire together in that a little firepower would have done the trick. The same thing is true of the Shah's Iran but in both cases the decision went the other way. You can bet there was plenty or regret by both 'deciders'. Things are headed for a 'Darby Crash' in the Lower 48 as this criminal clique known as Repub-Dem continues its thievery and debauchery at our expense.

Leninism-Stalinism is not Marxism, was not Marxism. Everybody know that nothing works although 99% of Homo Sapien is relatively satisfied with the status quo. We are adding 100,000,000 new Homo Sapien to the Earth every year so how bad can things be?

Uh... what's your point? I wasn't arguing whether Leninism or Stalinism was Marxist or not. They certainly had aspects of his theory and it could be argued that Marx did want the stage they played out to occur . But Marx's ultimate classless communist society can be just as exploitative as Capitalism, if not more.

Again, nothing works on paper but it doesn't have to because Homo Sapien rolls with every punch as it plunges toward global annihilitation. Almost all Homo Sapiens have what they need, whether they live under Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Feudalism, Semi-Anarchy (Somolia and others), you name it. Our endless discussions re. same are pointless because it's a slow degeneration toward nihilism. In the meantime, folq are living in the moment.