CCW 2.68: Last Rants Part Two

The conclusion of Elliott & Jose's Watchmen movie review.

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• DC
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• Zack
• Snyder

[xaoslegend]

Whoa I've found a nest of you nitpickers, hold on lemme get my raid. Anyhow for all you comic fans looking your gift horse in the mouth, congratulations Watchmen is now bombing thanks to the pincer attack from both the total idiot ignorant action fan audience and the geek comic book totalitarians. This could have been a huge step forward for us, now it will be used by studios as the reason not to do intelligent comic movies, or anything related goodbye good scifi and fantasy too. Thanks.

[comicculturewarrior]

I disagree xaoslegend, The Dark Knight (and to some extant Iron Man) were 'intelligent comic-book movie(s)' and made serious box-office, so I don't think the studios are going to back out on making more of them. But what DK and IM had that Watchmen lacked was appeal to a wider audience. Non-fans enjoyed them. In its defense, a film like Watchmen stands to do very well in the DVD market once the extra footage is inserted and deals with the 'nitpicks.' ;-)

Thanks for commenting! Elliott

[xaoslegend]

Iron man was intelligent? Give me a break, what because it made the one point that a private weapons manufacturer might sell weapons to our enemies? TDK had some groundbreaking tones but in the end it's messages are pretty disturbing, Batman is still our hero and he uses unlimited (clearly warrantless) wiretapping to catch his enemy, uses torture, and conspires to lie to the public, "The hero we need" instead of the "Hero we deserve" this is only as intelligent as the Bush Administration is.

[comicculturewarrior]

What you're talking about is theme, not the 'intelligence' of the film. Neither TDK or IM were condescending to the viewers and showed respect for the source material. As someone who has seen his share of dumb comic book movies - Batman and Robin anyone? - I think I know a smart film when I see it. You may not like the themes the the movies had, but that doesn't make them dumb. Still, Watchmen was smart too, but a different animal from the others. Apples and oranges, IMO. Elliott

[deemar325]

Agree, like I said Watchmen I think is gonna be our Blade Runner.

Hopefully this and TDK makes studios, realize that these films have to be mindless camp. Well most studios except FOX they fuck up everything.

[comicculturewarrior]

Completely agree with you on the Blade Runner/Watchmen comparison. That's just how things go sometimes.

Jose

[masonTganes]

MOvie was a faithful adaption. But it also didnt ad anything cinematicly. it was like a 3-d motion comic.

I loved the movie but non comic fans i was it with didnt get it and were bored.

[kurumais]

i thought this movie was going to be bomb i was suprised how much i liked it i didnt like it as much as TDK or iron man but i really enjoyed it

[xaoslegend]

TDK was also a very long film, it was just simpler to understand and had a faster pace of action and more of it. This issue isn't so much length though of course that contributes, the issue is that it's actually an interesting film that takes a lot of time slowing down to really get detailed characterizations in. It's performance is mediocre now (for R rating not that mediocre) because it was advertised as an action flick when it's a thought/fable/ensemble flick which always have less appeal.

[locusmortis]

Nest of Nitpickers? Are you Stan Lee in disguise?

As it happens Elliot and Jose are pretty fair with this review and I'm not afraid to call them out if I disagree with their reviews.

The reason Watchmen is falling is for 2 reasons. General audiences can't relate to the characters the way they're portrayed and second its an arse-numbing 2hrs 43 minutes long. Films that make BIG money do it from people going 2, 3, 4 times and a non comic fan is unlikely to do that for such a long film.

[pobra17]

lately I've been viewing a lot of watchmen reviews and this was by far the best one IMO. No one else pointed out the fact that the movie did not give near enough back story for ozymandias which completely threw off the ending for most people. I went to see it with my gf and she said that if she hadn't been paying close attention she would have missed the fact that ozy was even a member of the watchmen. That was my biggest nitpick. She also said the first half was very boring for her.

[deemar325]

Batman is George Bush?

[BlackPhoenix06]

Your last sentence reeks of truthfulness.