After Dr. William Lane Craig completes his lecture on the existence of God, a very sincere and eye-opening question is asked by one of the students at The Ohio State University.
@1GodOnlyOne Do you admit that your "logical argument" is a purposeful lie? Do you admit that you are trying to decieve people? You either knew that your first premise was wrong (liar), or you are to simple to understand why it is wrong.
How the fuck can you claim the moral high ground if you use deception as a tool?
Wasn't there a character in the bible who was known as a deceiver?
@1GodOnlyOne C'mon dude, authentically access your consciousness (lolz) and tell me what you mean.
Oh yea, I forgot that you're a liar. That's all you do is try to deceive people to get them to believe what you do. You & d are doing exactly what I said days ago. You trolls don't care about having an honest conversation, all you want to do is use words to trick people because you know that if you're honest your arguments fail, just like your pathetic little "logical" argument.
@urprivacypolicysucks if its subjective then there is no reason to say what they did is evil because our morals mean nothing they are just artificial rules placed on us by society for the better interest of the public.
I disagree, these acts you mention are simply universally wrong many Nazi's wrote about how they knew these things were wrong. The golden rule is universal and known by empathy a trait everyone has to some degree. If its in our DNA as you suggest that would support a designer.
@dmanpic Yes, individuals and groups of individuals define what's right and wrong. There were many muslims who thought 9/11 was right. Many Nazis thought the holocaust was right. They didn't think it was evil. Many, if not most, christians and muslims think homosexuality is 'immoral' - well, the rest of us think this kind of thinking is wrong (some would say "evil") - it's all subjective and you know it.
@dmanpic Most morals are taught, some are somewhat inherent, but only by our evolution. What do you think would happen to a species who thought it was a good idea to kill every other member of its own species, including their offspring?
You call that logical proof of an objective moral standard?! First of all, nobody knows exactly what "consciousness" is. You can't start a logical argument with an illogical statement. Define "authentic conscious access".
Anyway, lets say I accept your argument. That changes nothing about mine.
@1GodOnlyOne Do you admit that your "logical argument" is a purposeful lie? Do you admit that you are trying to decieve people? You either knew that your first premise was wrong (liar), or you are to simple to understand why it is wrong.
How the fuck can you claim the moral high ground if you use deception as a tool?
Wasn't there a character in the bible who was known as a deceiver?
Zentz29 7 hours ago
@frylock492 Subjectivity.
Zentz29 13 hours ago
@Zentz29 penis
frylock492 13 hours ago
@1GodOnlyOne C'mon dude, authentically access your consciousness (lolz) and tell me what you mean.
Oh yea, I forgot that you're a liar. That's all you do is try to deceive people to get them to believe what you do. You & d are doing exactly what I said days ago. You trolls don't care about having an honest conversation, all you want to do is use words to trick people because you know that if you're honest your arguments fail, just like your pathetic little "logical" argument.
Zentz29 20 hours ago
@urprivacypolicysucks if its subjective then there is no reason to say what they did is evil because our morals mean nothing they are just artificial rules placed on us by society for the better interest of the public.
I disagree, these acts you mention are simply universally wrong many Nazi's wrote about how they knew these things were wrong. The golden rule is universal and known by empathy a trait everyone has to some degree. If its in our DNA as you suggest that would support a designer.
ShawnSwander 1 day ago
@dmanpic Yes, individuals and groups of individuals define what's right and wrong. There were many muslims who thought 9/11 was right. Many Nazis thought the holocaust was right. They didn't think it was evil. Many, if not most, christians and muslims think homosexuality is 'immoral' - well, the rest of us think this kind of thinking is wrong (some would say "evil") - it's all subjective and you know it.
urprivacypolicysucks 1 day ago
@dmanpic Most morals are taught, some are somewhat inherent, but only by our evolution. What do you think would happen to a species who thought it was a good idea to kill every other member of its own species, including their offspring?
urprivacypolicysucks 1 day ago
@1GodOnlyOne Awwwww...
I took my dogs for a walk hoping that I'd see a response from you when I got back...
Maybe I need an authentic conscious access card to view your comments?
=o)
Zentz29 1 day ago
@Zentz29 You are quite stupid.
1GodOnlyOne 1 day ago
@1GodOnlyOne "authentic conscious access"?
lolz
You call that logical proof of an objective moral standard?! First of all, nobody knows exactly what "consciousness" is. You can't start a logical argument with an illogical statement. Define "authentic conscious access".
Anyway, lets say I accept your argument. That changes nothing about mine.
Zentz29 1 day ago