Daylam Parthian-Sasanian/Pahlavi (Dimili-Kirmanc) history

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[Zazambaz]

Zazaki (or Kirmanjki, Dimli) is a language spoken by Zazas in eastern Anatolia (Turkey). According to Ethnologue, the Zazaki is a Part-Sasani of the northwestern group of the Iranian section of the Indo-Iranian branch of the Indo-European family.

[Zazambaz]

Zazaki shares many features, structures, and vocabulary with Gilaki, Talyshi and other Caspian languages, spoken in northern Iran, along the southern Caspian coast.According to Ethnologue (which cites [Paul 1998][2]), the number of Zazaki speakers is between 1.5 and 2.5 million)

[NawrozNawrozi]

A real Kurd must shit on the so called Iran and fuck every poorsian pig on the face of earth.

[XortoZaza]

Ist das beste Video über die Zaza Geschichte...

Vielen Dank für deine Arbeit Ahuramazd1991

[IranSepahbod]

@NoEasyWayOutt

interesting. Is this shabankareh tribe kalhor, lak, or sorani?

You gave good reasons. However, I want to add this one also: strangely enough the leaders of the kurds, with all the knowledge that is available about history of Iranic nations today, never promote any form of unity among Iranic nations. They even dont explain what Iranian means,and some of their propaganda even demonize persians and the country Iran and to an extent this funny and unhealthy propaganda has worked.

[IranSepahbod]

@NoEasyWayOutt

Interesting... about that some kurds have poems about Ardeshir in kermanshah.

Funny thing is that the so called nationalist kurds critisize kermanshah kurds for being in love with Iran. They dont understand the history yet! it's about Iran and Iranian.

And I also agree that sassanian and parthian and achaemenian had kurdish soldiers and generals in Army. During achaemenian era there were median generals (one of the ancestor nation of kurds).

[IranSepahbod]

@NoEasyWayOutt

If shabankareh tribe indeed were kurdish, then ardeshir was half kurdish. That's what i tried to explain because some sources such as farsnama (written 900 years ago) does not mention this tribe as kurds. Sharafnameh(kurdish source) also doesnt mention them as kurds. Also the term kurd, was mentioned for Nomadic persians living in fars, it had no ethnical meaning.

That's why i wrote this things else some people would get wrong impression.

[IranSepahbod]

@NoEasyWayOutt

You said it yourself.. "Also the term kurd was used by certain tribes". Kurds were not homogenous nation, their ethnicity was formed much later. Some say they are from gutians, some say medians, some say carduchi etc..

In my opinion,the defenition of kurds would be:"different Iranian/Iranic peoples/nations, who speak branches of north-western Iranian language which are not MUTUALLY INTELLIGIBLE"

Still that would be wrong, because baluchis,gilaks,talysh for example are not kurd

[IranSepahbod]

@NoEasyWayOutt

because the sassanids spoke persian, and not kurdish.

[IranSepahbod]

@NoEasyWayOutt

wikipedia is not a source actually!

The information on wikipedia is based on sources and refers to sources. You can check the source of every sentence that is written in wikipedia. If there is no source behind the sentence, then it would be possibly fake.

But I always control and check that , to make sure the information is true.

Yes I know about shabankareh tribe, and that king was half kurd.

However i dont want to make the impression that sassanids were a kurdish dynasty!

[IranSepahbod]

@NoEasyWayOutt

the term Kurd in the Middle Persian documents simply means nomad and tent-dweller and could be attributed to any Iranian ethnic group having similar characteristics. In the early Islamic Persian and Arabic sources, the term Kurd became synonymous with an amalgamation of Iranian and Iranicized nomadic tribes and groups without reference to any specific Iranian language.

[IranSepahbod]

@NoEasyWayOutt

although he was possibly half kurd, the term "kurd" in that time had no ethnical meaning/definition. It was applied to nomadic Iranians, even to some persian tribes that were nomadic.