@NOTENGAMIEDO Uke isn't thrown, so it isn't nage. Uke is pinned so it is osaekomi waza and the shoulder (kata) is entangled (gatame) to produce both the technique and the pin so this particular osaekomi waza is actually a subset of kansetsu waza. Hence is it is kata gatame. The fact that other arts have techniques called kata gatame that are different is irrelevent.
@ketsan ...There is not such technique in Aikido...It belongs to Jiu jitsu and then implemented in Judo (By the way, KG is far away from loking like the Soto Kaiten Nage. KG is an osaekomi waza technique, which means, immobilization)
@NOTENGAMIEDO Uke isn't thrown, so it isn't nage. Uke is pinned so it is osaekomi waza and the shoulder (kata) is entangled (gatame) to produce both the technique and the pin so this particular osaekomi waza is actually a subset of kansetsu waza. Hence is it is kata gatame. The fact that other arts have techniques called kata gatame that are different is irrelevent.
ketsan 8 months ago
@ketsan ...There is not such technique in Aikido...It belongs to Jiu jitsu and then implemented in Judo (By the way, KG is far away from loking like the Soto Kaiten Nage. KG is an osaekomi waza technique, which means, immobilization)
NOTENGAMIEDO 8 months ago
We call that kata gatame.
ketsan 2 years ago
soto kaiten osae... locking technique
NagareboshiFin 2 years ago
Kaiten Nage.
wizzra 3 years ago
Kaiten Nage??? o principio do Kaiten tá lá, agora o nage . . . nem vê-lo.
carlospalma51 3 years ago