Climate Change 1of12: The IPCC and Prior Climate Predictions
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this is a really good lecture, will watch it all.
just want to point out that to the left of IPCC it looks like the phrase "cherry fucking" is written :P
( I realize it might be something else)
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Ýou are right, I don't know a lot about computer models, but I do know when I'm being screwed.
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@1000frolly Obviously you don't know shit about how true computer modeling is done. You just make up lies.
By contrast, the deniers use circular reasoning by assuming everything the coal-oil billionaires tell them is absolute truth and then concluding that it is.
I hope you support freeing every single prisoner in the USA because there is ZERO proof ANYone held hostage in prison has ever committed a crime.
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@mphello After initializing and parametrizing hundreds of unknown factors,inserting divergent proxy data and ignoring any difficult natural forcing factors,we ran hundreds of simulations until we obtained the results we wanted–an ensemble of meaningless projected results,which we then averagedWe utilized the liberally unprincipled component method to homogenize and sensitize it to produce a new hockey stick,which gave a prediction 95% probability that we are totally screwing all of you
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@mphello .. that destroys the deniers' original beliefs.
Science and real serious scientists are self-correcting. Deniers are not.
Muller has been a denier too long, falsely attacking other scientists who had already done all the objective analysis long ago and proved AGW ten times over.
It's too late for him to make amends.
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Keep in mind: there is an ENORMOUS difference between a scientist who examines all evidence, makes a prediction based on that evidence, and asserts it with a conviction proportional to its probability - then later, as more evidence comes in, changes or modifies their prediction
versus cherrypicking politically-driven deniers who scream absolute certainty for their beliefs (including beliefs re: political conspiracies) based on ZERO evidence, and who CONTINUE to deny even as more data rolls in
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I guess Dr Muller changed his mind. So... who is left that doubts man made climate change????
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wind goes thru CO2, it doesn't thru Seran wrap. Bad comparison.
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Who is this bozo? He does not know shit about climate so who is he lecturing to?
Climatic GH effect is based on blocking out-going long wave radiation not preventing hot air rising.
This is either gross INCOMPETENCE or plain LIES. Make up your own mind.
tubercoloris 2 years ago
Or it could be you're misunderstanding the point of the demonstration.
I don't think it's intended to be an accurate model of the climate, it's just an analogy. Just as the term "greenhouse effect" is used to describe a mechanism that is actually quite different from the way that greenhouses retain their heat. He knows this, he's a bloody physicist.
If I'd known so many people would miss the point and use it as an excuse to dismiss 2 hours of material, I'd have left it out.
theinquisitor 2 years ago 3
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The point is quite clear. The first thing he says is "we have climate change right here" and then shows something which has absolutely nothing to do with climate change. It's a deception.
Since I'm also a "bloody physicist" I know this is a deception. But most of his untrained audience and your audience here don't.
Sadly there now seems to be a significant number of scientists who seems to think lying is acceptable.
This is not science it's politics.
tubercoloris 2 years ago
If you'd watched the rest of the lecture, you'd know that he goes on to describe the mechanism of greenhouse warming in detail.
If his intent was to deceive with this demonstration, then why would he go on to give his students everything they need in order to show that the demonstration is not an accurate model?
Kind of a stupid way to deceive people isn't it? Lie to them and then explain how to see through the lie.
theinquisitor 2 years ago 3
The IPCCs controversial chairman, Dr Rajendra Pachauri, described as "the worlds top climate scientist", is a former railway engineer with a PhD in economics and no formal climate science qualifications...
QuantumLeap365 2 years ago
Who describes him as that?
Anyway, the conclusions of the IPCC don't rest on the opinions of the chairman. He's just an administrator. So what?
As I understand it, the IPCC doesn't do it's own research, it merely reports on the conclusions of the scientific community.
Your implication is that we should listen to the scientists, not non-experts. I would agree with that. And the opinion of the scientific community leans heavily in the direction that the IPCC advocates. Doesn't it?
theinquisitor 2 years ago 3