Nick Griffin proves himself to a be a right loony (C4 News, 25.04.10)

What a dickhead!

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[way2tehdawn]

Left wing conservative government?

[WizardKing78]

OK, so what exactly was unreasonable about what Nick Griffin said?

[hilletehnoob]

@TownElder today's " right wing " are very socialist,are pro-internationalism(multicult­uralism),many don't even promote ancient right wing christian values anymore,they have nothing to do with ancient right wing,that's why he sayed that,he sayed that they were basically left wings who called themselfs right wings,i see nothing stupid on that,the definition of right and left today doesn't even make sense for today's reality,but yeah it's part of our culture to divide in left and right wing soo...

[PenguinOnDopee]

Until he said genuine threat of communism...

I was on board?

And no im not rasict.

[bakayurei]

@fume0ne and therefore debatable.. when you assume what somebody's opinion is, you're pre-judging them and are not talking about facts.. there's no way of wording this that'll make it any clearer.. i'm done, if you have any further questions, look back at earlier posts of mine and you'll find the answer without me having to repeat myself a thousand times

[bakayurei]

@fume0ne for the final time, and don't bother asking me this question after this: when you're talking about a matter of fact, you can verify or falsify your claims.. if i say 'there's a cat on the floor' you can look at the floor and say 'yes, there is', or 'no, there isn't'.. doesn't make a difference to the debatability of the claim whether it's correct or not.. you happened to be right, what you said about gay people, and wrong about women, but both those claims are matters of fact

[fume0ne]

@bakayurei your reply was very unclear if you now say you agree with the statement :?

i asked "would you also agree that it was correct?" and your reply was

"not necessarily, but you're getting closer. now what you're saying is debatable, as it's a matter of fact"

so from this i am to infer than you agree with the statement? it seems like you are saying that you don't really agree with it?

also facts are not debatable + i think you might have missed a 'not' our or something in OP?

[bakayurei]

@fume0ne yea.. i'm sure you're just taking the piss, so this'll be my last contribution to this discussion: if you're asking about the status of women in islam and the mainstream opinion regarding gay people, first let me refer you back to ^ stuff i've already told you.. and it's true that the qur'an has said that two female witnesses equal one man, and i don't know what you mean about witnesses to adultery, the same law applies there

[bakayurei]

@fume0ne i'm convinced you're a troll, nobody's that stupid, you're obviously capable of thought and you're obviously okay with the english language, there's no way that you actually think i said anything about what you said being incorrect.. you can see it right there, what i said was it's a matter of fact and therefore debatable.. didn't say anything about it being correct or incorrect

[fume0ne]

@bakayurei what would you say about the statement is incorrect? As far as i can work out from google the statement is factual - apart from a woman's testimony apparently being worth the same as a mans only in cases of adultery according to the magic quoran - otherwise it is indeed worth 50%.

With such a revision, I presume that you would agree the statement accurate? if not could you explain why not?

Thanks again for your replies

It is most refreshing to talk with someone

[bakayurei]

@fume0ne not necessarily, but you're getting closer.. now what you're saying is debatable, as it's a matter of fact.. and to reiterate, if you'd said that muslims are required by shariah to hate jews, then that wouldn't be a prejudice neither, that would, again, simply be a question of fact that could be settled by a google search.. to claim that belonging to a certain group causes you to think a certain way, that's prejudice .. i hope you've finally understood what i'm talking about