Jehovah's Witnesses forbits their members to have a Blood transfusion, if they need it to save their lives. The punishment of doing it, is the disfellowshipping and shunning from the Organization.
dios es amor, y no mando a sus siervos a cumplir obligatoriamente celibato, no mande a dar diezmo obligatoriamente, no mando a adorar a maria, yo creo q de las tranfusiones es algo personal. de cada persona . tambien no mando dios a adorar imagenes . gracias
(cont) finally, diseases? So it's better to refuse something and die, than to take it and have a tiny chance that you might get a disease? You take risks of that sort every time you go into a hospital.
(cont) In that case, there would be 200x more people getting transfusions than refusing them. With that being said, we would expect the deaths to be 200x higher, because there are more people doing it. What you'd have to do is look at it on a percentage basis. Unfortunately I couldn't find any statistics for "deaths from blood transfusions." If you have them, let me know and we'll compare with this new factor in mind.
First of all your analogy is flawed. A Jew starving in the desert can eat pork if it will keep him from dying, because the Law was made for man, man was not made for the Law. If the Law causes death, it is no longer useful at that moment. So, according to a Jew, a blood transfusion to save a life would be acceptable.
As for your claim that there are more people who from transfusions than from not getting them, you're missing an important point. Suppose 1 in 200 people are JW.
Also, it's not an OT thing. Acts 15:20 says to abstain from blood (among other things). So we do.
If a doctor said he'd save your life if you knowingly disobeyed God, would you? We have the faith to say NO. People have died for their faith throughout history. We shouldn't TRY to, but I value my relationship with God more than this temporary, sinful life.
So you can take parts of blood but not whole blood huh? So it's wrong to have a ham sandwich, but okay to have ham, bread, cheese, lettuce, and mayo seperately? And you think that makes sense?
Question: if "bloodless transfusions" are so much safer and better, how come so many Witnesses die by refusing blood transfusions?
Dios es todo amor por eso mando a su hijo Jesus y nunca mando a un alcoholico como Russell ningun recado de nada y mucho menso a decirle a la gente que no tuviera transfusiones de sangre EL QUE TENGA OIDOS QUE ENTIENDA!! y el que no quiere ver pues muerase ciego!! He dicho
What's bullshit, foul?
dasgregorian 1 year ago
Well thats complete bullshit.
FoulOwl 1 year ago
dios es amor, y no mando a sus siervos a cumplir obligatoriamente celibato, no mande a dar diezmo obligatoriamente, no mando a adorar a maria, yo creo q de las tranfusiones es algo personal. de cada persona . tambien no mando dios a adorar imagenes . gracias
hearthbreaker1987 2 years ago
(cont) finally, diseases? So it's better to refuse something and die, than to take it and have a tiny chance that you might get a disease? You take risks of that sort every time you go into a hospital.
happypranksgiving 2 years ago
(cont) In that case, there would be 200x more people getting transfusions than refusing them. With that being said, we would expect the deaths to be 200x higher, because there are more people doing it. What you'd have to do is look at it on a percentage basis. Unfortunately I couldn't find any statistics for "deaths from blood transfusions." If you have them, let me know and we'll compare with this new factor in mind.
happypranksgiving 2 years ago
First of all your analogy is flawed. A Jew starving in the desert can eat pork if it will keep him from dying, because the Law was made for man, man was not made for the Law. If the Law causes death, it is no longer useful at that moment. So, according to a Jew, a blood transfusion to save a life would be acceptable.
As for your claim that there are more people who from transfusions than from not getting them, you're missing an important point. Suppose 1 in 200 people are JW.
happypranksgiving 2 years ago
Also, it's not an OT thing. Acts 15:20 says to abstain from blood (among other things). So we do.
If a doctor said he'd save your life if you knowingly disobeyed God, would you? We have the faith to say NO. People have died for their faith throughout history. We shouldn't TRY to, but I value my relationship with God more than this temporary, sinful life.
If you don't have the faith, I'm sorry.
dasgregorian 2 years ago
Religiously: For the same reason meat and cheese are each acceptable to jews, but not together. God said no, so, no.
Functionally, because blood fractions are much less likely to be rejected/carry viruses/cause infections/slow recovery than whole blood.
MUCH fewer witnesses die "from not having blood" than the deaths per year DUE TO transfusions.
Like I said, go to noblood(dot)org, find your closest bloodless hospital, ask them yourselves. Blood's not worth it, medically.
dasgregorian 2 years ago
So you can take parts of blood but not whole blood huh? So it's wrong to have a ham sandwich, but okay to have ham, bread, cheese, lettuce, and mayo seperately? And you think that makes sense?
Question: if "bloodless transfusions" are so much safer and better, how come so many Witnesses die by refusing blood transfusions?
happypranksgiving 2 years ago
Dios es todo amor por eso mando a su hijo Jesus y nunca mando a un alcoholico como Russell ningun recado de nada y mucho menso a decirle a la gente que no tuviera transfusiones de sangre EL QUE TENGA OIDOS QUE ENTIENDA!! y el que no quiere ver pues muerase ciego!! He dicho
MarthaPerezDiva 2 years ago