Charles Krauthammer on Honduras: Obama is Wrong

Article 239: "No citizen who has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President. Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years."
I talks about those who support the violation. Remember Zelaya never proposed the constitutional assembly 2 different parties did in congress,.

One more time, follow along if you can. First off it's given he was President. Secondly , it says", will immediately cease in their functions "Section 239

His powers were therefore stripped, not his title. Big difference.
A better question to ask is why Zelaya would be stupid enough to think he could pull this off? Maybe he thought Uncle Hugo had his back.

How can a man be this oblivious to the Constitution he was sworn to uphold ?

He can't be this dumb, so it's INTENT.

One more time, SECTION 239 specifically relates to the PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT. Was Zelaya the President?
One more time, THE SUPREME COURT determines,( much like in the U.S) apparently if these laws have been broken.

They determined they obviously were.

I don't claim to be an expert on Hondouran Law , but this section seems obviously to relate to the Presidency, not to Congressman.
In the U.S Presidents are impeached, Congressmen recalled. Different position=-different standards.

@dalmatian847
If Zelaya wasnt president when he was sent to costa rica why did the congress accept his resignation?

SECTION 239 relates to the President or vice-president specifically. So no, it appears those in the highest offices are subjected to this specific section of the Constitution.

Not every citizen can declare themselves President for life, Zelaya was working on circumventing the sysyem, he got called on it.

It was entirely proper. I see you have not learned from the last guy who brought this up to you a month ago.

@dalmatian847
Why werent the congressmen who proposed it arrested, there were 2 proposals. And for practical means who determines if these laws have been broken.

According to Article 239: "No citizen who has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President. Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years."

Note that it speaks about intent and that it also says "immediately" as " in "no trial required," "no impeachment needed."

@dalmatian847
But, the poll wasnt to call a contitutional assembly it was to see if a forth poll would be placed on the november elections asking if people wanted the contitutional assembly. Actually to proposals came from 2 different parties in congress to do the same thing, why arent all those congressmen arrested?

@dalmatian847
I am not a commie i am a socialist.

And i repeat can the army follow orders from congress or the judicial branch?No. Only the police is supposed to, only the police can make arrests. and when arrests are made you are supposed to be taken to the right facilities not expelled out of the country, which is ilegal.

These are the facts: On June 26, President Zelaya issued a decree ordering all government employees to take part in the "Public Opinion Poll to convene a National Constitutional Assembly." In doing so, Zelaya triggered a constitutional provision that automatically removed him from office.

Constitutional assemblies are convened to write new constitutions. When Zelaya published that decree to initiate an "opinion poll" about the possibility of .

His actions showed intent. that was enough.