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Civil War... "Setting the Record Straight" V

S... America has been taught a very distorted and politically correct version of history... this fifth in a series of short clips seeks to set the record straight.  
 
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SouthernBoy4life1 (3 months ago) Show Hide
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Actually at the time of the civil war only 10% of the South owned slaves.
eflint1 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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The slave poulation grew because slaves were having sex. I'm not sure why you brought this up.
Rockroi (4 months ago) Show Hide
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As far as the slave population growing, I brought this up because if slavery was truly on the decline, surely the numbers of slaves would reflect this. Surely if it was a dying institution, I would be able to see that slaves were not needed and Gradual Emancipation (Greatest. Myth. Ever.) taking hold. Nope. Slaves were in demand; hence, there was a large supply. The most valuable commodity in America was a slave. This is all proof that slavery was still a thriving institution in 1860.
eflint1 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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Let me give another example. I hate abortion. Abortion dehumanizes unborn children like slavery did to blacks. Yet, if a foreign power invaded America over purely economic issues, and then decided to end abortion here, do you think I'd be happy? NO! I'd still fight for America even if it meant the preservation of an injustice I despise. This is why I side with the South. It was not worth overthrowing the Constitution and government as the Founders wished it just to end an injustice.
Rockroi (4 months ago) Show Hide
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But the North was not "foreign." There is no right to secede from the Union in the Constitution. Read the Federalist Papers and "James Madison" by Ralph Ketcham that make great arguments that the South was living in an "ignorance is bliss" world where they convinced themselves that they could get out of the Union whenever they wanted.

It was simply a dream; there is no inherent right to secede; it is not "retained" by the states. Madison et al knew that going in.
eflint1 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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Nor is there any provision in the Constitution prohibiting secession. The Federalists papers make it clear that the States retain their sovereignty upon entering the Union. If a State can't secede,then it is not sovereign. Again I remind you that Lincoln denied that the States EVER were sovereign. This was one of the main factors that led the more moderate upper South States to secede,plus his calling for troops. Had he not done this, the upper South probably would have stayed with the Union.
eflint1 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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The CSA was an independent, sovereign nation. Therefore, the U.S. troops to them were foreigners.
eflint1 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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Rockroi, let me make something clear. I'm not defending the South as much as I'm defending the right for a State to secede. The South and North were both wrong to have EVER owned slaves. But the Northern newspaper editorials made it clear they were fighting for their own economic interests, the Constitution be damned! Even with their errors, the South was RIGHT in their interpretation of the Constitution. The only good thing that came out of that war was the abolition of slavery.
Rockroi (4 months ago) Show Hide
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When the war started, the North was in turmoil. They knew why the South seceded (slavery). Hence, there was considerable trouble with Northern White people dying for Southern Black people. It was a very hard war to fight for just "Union" and "Country." However, once Lincoln (brilliantly, mind you) issued the Emancipation Proclamation, the Civil War became a crusade to free black people from unjust bondage. War was over in a year and a half after that. South never stood a chance at that point
eflint1 (4 months ago) Show Hide
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Actually, the emancipation proclamation almost destroyed the Union cause. There were race riots in major northern cities and desertions in the Union army skyrocketed because, as THEY put it, the soldiers did not want to "fight to free niggers". The North ws just as racist as the South.

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