@jake1052003 I have indeed. Herman Wouk is one of my favorite authors. The Caine Mutiny, like Wouk's Winds of War and War and Rememberance, while based on historical events, are works of fiction and do contain inaccuracies. Typhoon Cobra sank three destroyers, damaged several ships and scattered the fleet. None of those who survived did so by keeping their vessels stern to the wind, which in the 90 plus foot waves of the typhoon would have been suicidal.
@LordZontar This is a great point that I never picked up on. Queeg should have been court martialed regardless of Lt. Marycks actions. A major flaw by the great Author Herman Wouk. But the story may not have worked that way. It is a work of fiction.Wouk himself was basically an amalgam of Keefer & Keith, as he served on a DMS in WWII. Still a brilliant book. My favorite read!
@LordZontar Of course, Barney Greenwald makes this clear. But it is WWII and part of the big push against japan. The Typhoon is in Dec 1944, the War would be over in 6 months. Another comment thinks Bogey is too young for the part. Just the opposite. Remember it is WWII. The USN was 10X bigger than now. It also makes this point in the book. Reserve LT.'s were taking command of these "TinCans" all over the Fleet. The book was far more detailed. As a Navy Vet and a Can Sailor, I's like my bible
@sockettuem Have you read the book? The argument is made much more clearly in the book. It's Wouks best by far. I've read it at least 6 times in the last 30 yrs.
Had this stroy been true, Queeg's actions would have put his vessel at great hazard and inevitably it would have gone down. Anyone with even a marginal degree of experience at sea knows attempting to ride out a following sea during a typhoon is a fool's errand. Surely any captain worthy of the title would have known this and acted accordingly by putting her bow into the wind.
Queeg was a man who had been through too much. He had already seen two years hard combat in the Atlantic and should not have been pushed into another command so soon but given a full rest-leave or assigned to training duties. By the point of the Yellowstain Incident, he was not able to endure the stresses of command and certainly not the stress of riding out a typhoon in a tincan. For his own sake, he should never have been put on the Caine. I have a lot of sympathy for Queeg.
wille, dog the damn door! @ 3:06 lol......
katbulooo 3 weeks ago
I want this video on my GB280 unit.
usabbott48g 1 month ago
@jake1052003 I have indeed. Herman Wouk is one of my favorite authors. The Caine Mutiny, like Wouk's Winds of War and War and Rememberance, while based on historical events, are works of fiction and do contain inaccuracies. Typhoon Cobra sank three destroyers, damaged several ships and scattered the fleet. None of those who survived did so by keeping their vessels stern to the wind, which in the 90 plus foot waves of the typhoon would have been suicidal.
sockettuem 2 months ago
@LordZontar This is a great point that I never picked up on. Queeg should have been court martialed regardless of Lt. Marycks actions. A major flaw by the great Author Herman Wouk. But the story may not have worked that way. It is a work of fiction.Wouk himself was basically an amalgam of Keefer & Keith, as he served on a DMS in WWII. Still a brilliant book. My favorite read!
jake1052003 2 months ago
@penumbra155 Bravo,well said.Brilliant, Brilliant, Brilliant book!
jake1052003 2 months ago
@LordZontar Of course, Barney Greenwald makes this clear. But it is WWII and part of the big push against japan. The Typhoon is in Dec 1944, the War would be over in 6 months. Another comment thinks Bogey is too young for the part. Just the opposite. Remember it is WWII. The USN was 10X bigger than now. It also makes this point in the book. Reserve LT.'s were taking command of these "TinCans" all over the Fleet. The book was far more detailed. As a Navy Vet and a Can Sailor, I's like my bible
jake1052003 2 months ago
@sockettuem Have you read the book? The argument is made much more clearly in the book. It's Wouks best by far. I've read it at least 6 times in the last 30 yrs.
jake1052003 2 months ago
would've scared the shit out of me
pacoloco729 2 months ago
Had this stroy been true, Queeg's actions would have put his vessel at great hazard and inevitably it would have gone down. Anyone with even a marginal degree of experience at sea knows attempting to ride out a following sea during a typhoon is a fool's errand. Surely any captain worthy of the title would have known this and acted accordingly by putting her bow into the wind.
sockettuem 2 months ago
Queeg was a man who had been through too much. He had already seen two years hard combat in the Atlantic and should not have been pushed into another command so soon but given a full rest-leave or assigned to training duties. By the point of the Yellowstain Incident, he was not able to endure the stresses of command and certainly not the stress of riding out a typhoon in a tincan. For his own sake, he should never have been put on the Caine. I have a lot of sympathy for Queeg.
LordZontar 3 months ago