Dr.Desmond Ford, Loma Linda 2008-This I Believe

Dr.Desmond Ford tells his honest and true opinion about what he believes.

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[fleetwd1]

@rev2214 Anyone following this exchange should readily perceive who is judging whom.Your words will judge you. I am only pointing out the obvious that you may see if you have eyes to, and hear if you have ears to, and feel if you have a heart to do so.Trusting in Christ for righteousness is your only hope, not in doctrinal purity, nor in holding to perceived doctrinal pillars of the faith.This Dr Ford understands extremely well and communicates it worldwide.You would do well to acknowledge it.

[fleetwd1]

@rev2214 you perceive this as a slam to you? it was meant to lift you, not slam you. it was meant to lift your thoughts higher to Christ who is your righteousness. perhaps your spirit is not able to perceive? it is a spiritual matter.

[rev2214]

@fleetwd1

That's fine but I am still none the wiser!

[fleetwd1]

@rev2214 finally, yes this is right! Apology accepted.

I do not know how I could have been clearer.

You should not assume what people think. While your arguments may apply to others you fight with, making blanket accusations to everyone you take issue with is a sign of immaturity.

Now you can be made clean by Christ who cleanses us. We all make mistakes but denying them keeps us from benefiting from his cleansing blood. R by F admits our culpability and wears His Righteousness alone. Peace!

[fleetwd1]

@rev2214 If you practice sin, all you teaching against sin goes for naught. It is for nothing. All your claims to love God's law is negated.

By condemning others sin you condemn yourself, for you are guilty of sin too.

You fight an imaginary argument you devise in your own mind. You avoid what is clear and you make your polluted allegations. Your words do not vindicate you as you imagine, they just reveal your true condition.

[rev2214]

@fleetwd1

So you are upset because I thought you were saying SDAs are legalists and you were not saying that, is that right?

Look if this is what has happened I am really sorry!!

If that is the case why don't you correct me and let me know what it is you are saying instead you keep sending me to hell?

[fleetwd1]

@rev2214 you ask "Where have I falsely accused u?" How many times must I ask why you wrote, I assume "because SDAs keep Sabbath...they are all a bunch of legalists." When I give you opportunity to prove your allegation, you change the subject, give no answer and blame me for other imagined offences like, "The fact u take sides with someone who prays to an idol.." You avoid the issue of your sin. Your sin is like the sin you condemn─it violates God's law. You teach against sin but practice it.

[rev2214]

@fleetwd1

Where have I falsely accused u?

The fact u take sides with someone who prays to an idol should tell u something, shouldn't it?

How would pointing out the danger of sin to someone so they can recognize the sin and repent make me guilty of the sin I am pointing out.

2 Timothy 4:2 "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine."

Why aren't you doing what the Bible says instead of taking me to task for doing it?

[fleetwd1]

@rev2214 I do not defend his idolatry. Nor do I ask you to confess to me. I ask you to apply the principle you use against him to yourself. Idolatry is sin but bearing false witness is also sin. If you say to him Repent or die in your sin. How does this not apply to you who bear false witness. When I ask you for evidence you have not falsely accused me, you change subject, ignore my request, and give no answer. This convicts you further. Evasion is further evidence against you. Is it not?

[rev2214]

@fleetwd1

So are you a Roman Catholic priest and wish me to confess my sins to you?

I was telling hockeyrulesus that it is a sin to worship idols so you are trying to defend his idolatry. For the record I do not bow down to graven images. When Jesus sent out his disciples or prophets to go and tell people to repent it did not mean themselves were sinless. T be a true witness you dont have to be sinless to preach the gospel all you have to do is be forgiven and obedient

[fleetwd1]

@rev2214 You affirm what is right, His will defined by his His law should be the delight of the converted. The issue is in what you deny. You want to hold others to the high standard of His law but you disobey the standard yourself. You make a big deal over the sin of others but minimize your own. I do not argue the merit of those who disobey, my argument is that your words used against them hold you accountable too. I ask is this not hypocritical? No answer, or changing subject, affirms guilt.

[rev2214]

@fleetwd1

"I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart". Psa 40:8