"Prabhupada said, 'It's hard work to go to hell" " ISKCON

Nanda dasi gives class on the Srimad Bhagavatam. Sometimes devotees may think all problems should dissipate when surrendering to Krishna but "it doesn't work like that".
Devotees suffering is different.
This is an excerpt. The entire class can be found on www.krishna.com/alachua eventually. Good class!

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[davegarret]

Oh dear are you having a 'I'm the victim' tantrem?! We'll I'm not falling for it for a second. Your so predictable.

I have sussed you totally. You have done exactly as I predicted. Refuse to acknowledge your blatant duplicity. Instead, play the victim, guilt trip, and more hypocrisy.

Why would I even want to BEGIN a debate with a textbook narcissist?

[davegarret]

From MALIGNANT SELF LOVE-NARCISSISM REVISTED" BY DR. SAM VAKNIN........

"The most telling thing that narcissists do is contradict themselves.THEY WILL DO THIS VIRTUALLY IN THE SAME SENTANCE, without even stopping to take a breath. When you ask them which one they mean, THEY'LL DENY EVER SAYING THE FIRST ONE, though it may literally have been only seconds since they said it.They will contradict FACTS."

This Betelgeuse3000 is a textbook case of Narcissistic personality Disorder.

[ShaktipatSeer2]

@Nixblicker10 Masons might have picked it up from India, rather then vice versa

[Nixblicker10]

freemason chess floor? wtf?

[MartialArtistWannabe]

@chamokc

Much of what Prabu said not only contradicted science and common sense, but also History. Perhaps you need to become more well rounded so you can make connections between things and can disregard some things as completely irrational.

[MartialArtistWannabe]

@chamokc

It is but a sect of Hinduism. All the traditions, stories, practices are the same. And Prabu also recognized other big names in Hinduism (Hanuman, Shiva, etc) as Krishna in different forms, which is exactly what Hinduism is. A bunch of beings who are in actuality one being. Hinduism is but a result of self-described wise men adding their own spins, stories and egos into Indian culture over thousands of years. Krishna is nothing more than a spinoff of Christ (I'm not a Christian)

[MartialArtistWannabe]

@chamokc

I can understand "God" the concept. I can understand something above time and nature because this world we live in must've been created by something above it. I can't understand the concious being that you call God. Prabu was recorded saying that the reason this "God" put us on earth was because we forced him - as a son forces a father. Anyone with half a brain should know that this is complete baloney.

[chamokc]

@MartialArtistWannabe You obvisouly don't have a clue of the vaisnave relegion, this is what happens all the time, you have people argure a point that is ALL READY explained in the Srimad Bhagavatima, Puranas, and Bhagavad Gita. If you had some knowledge of any of these books, and read your question you would realize that it makes no sense, I'm sorry but before you come to argue you should know both sides. And I can't argue with someone who has no knowledge of a subject.

[chamokc]

@MartialArtistWannabe FYI Krishna Consciousness Vaisnavism is not Hindu religion at all i don't know where your getting your info from! It's a philosophical science, consciousness and orders of Krishna. There is never ever any mention of Hindu in any of the vedic scriptures. We need to stop thinking that religion and God are designated to a culture or people. God is neither Hindu, Christian, or Muslim, God is God.

[chamokc]

@MartialArtistWannabe Uh Prabupada did tell us where the material came from lol. Krishna, if you think logically about it everything in this material universe comes from something, that is fact! We come from our parents and so on, the chair, a blade of grass, nothing just happens. And that something is God, if you can't understand that, then that's your hang up and hopefully someday you'll be able to have the brain intelligence to understand. You are being controlled, if u weren't why do u die?

[greatProphet1]

@MartialArtistWannabe

If u have power to creat,then why u said life is a test.The power of creation is the power of god as in the holy bible tells that water was created .that is god creat matter not living one as water is a matter.The mortality is occured for material,After death body is just a matter.but Wat is the difference between dead body and living body?